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_EnVy_ ![]() Team Deep Ground ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Location: Da FN TOP OBV Online Status: Offline Posts: 2035 |
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![]() sympathy one gets for nothing, EnVy must be earned" |
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SP61gTSupra ![]() Team TRU ![]() Splash with me! Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Location: Greenville Online Status: Offline Posts: 2974 |
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Prince Big Woody ![]() Godlike Member ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1961 |
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The redeemer is too much of a gamechanger destroying all health and a certain kill unless the one shooting it sucks. It destroys your belt, vest, boots etc which you've all been contesting all game long.
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SilverJ-17 ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() Silver Coinage Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Location: Western Indiana Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447 |
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Even though I practice not using it, I still don't see that much of a problem with using the Redeemer. In a 10 minute duel (like most, I think), it's only going to respawn 5 times and 7, in a 15 minute duel. You could easily just take it (before they get it) and shoot it away, dodge, or deny it. I had to do this in order to finally (Yes, I know I suck.) beat a Godlike bot in duel, fair and square. (no U-Damage usage or Redeemers on my part.) When he got the U-Damage, I just used to sound to keep myself away from him whenever they got it, though I killed him once or twice, when he had it. (I didn't pick it up though.)
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Prince Big Woody ![]() Godlike Member ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1961 |
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On deck and he has udamage? I'm gonna hammerjump up to some crates and spots on the levels which are excellent hiding spots - there are plenty.
Uh check the thread I just made as I didn't see this one lol. |
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Danjel8 ![]() Godlike Member ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3296 |
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Thing is... even if you do pick them up they last 30 seconds.. Your gonna spend half that time trying to find them and the other half chasing them.
Redeemer is every 2 mins, a good dueler won't get beat by a player using redeemers and ud. Also they control the maps anyway so if anything not being able to use these things means the noobs have more chance.
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Zito44 ![]() Team QnL ![]() ![]() QnL Member Joined: 31 May 2009 Location: Philadelphia Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
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well as you were sayin that if u pick up the damage that you just must be scared that you cant"dodge my rockets" and w.e else...but if u think about it thats just the same as sayin that your scared your not goin to be able to land your shots on someone with a shield belt and that you need double damage to kill some1 if you do land your shots lol..having the shield belt does not change the way you play against that person just because your opponet has the shield belt that means your not going to be able to land your shots?...and it is pointless playin duel with no powerups because like some1 else was sayin it makes u move around the map and also many maps are pointless to play with no powerups like deck and shang not just because of the belt but also the boots
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SP61gTSupra ![]() Team TRU ![]() Splash with me! Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Location: Greenville Online Status: Offline Posts: 2974 |
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Like dan said, if i hear UD, i'll just run away, an toss out random shock cores in reverse, but ive only dueled a few times an had plenty of ppl use UD an Deemer in DM! to be honest, im better without the shield belt, i guess the belt gives me a sense of faulse comfort, an when i have less than 30 health is when i shine!
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Prince Big Woody ![]() Godlike Member ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1961 |
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uDamage/Redeemer destroy the point of map control/ 'strategy' in the first place.
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Danjel8 ![]() Godlike Member ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3296 |
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Too many times people find something to pick on or have a go at others in different modes. Since I've played ut3 I've played duel only about 100-200 times and I got taught/told early on not to use the UD.
In kali's set up of a duel where if I was to play him I would get stacked on health and he was average on health I think I would still lose. Duel = amazing aim, map control and reactions. Of course more attributes are involved thats not up for debate but I'd never pick up berserk, UD or the redeemer now. I did read a post by Bumrush where he said whenever there is a shield belt there is a UD to counter it. Sure if I was duelling and someone picked it up I'd be a little annoyed but its not the end of the world. Plus if you have your settings on so you can hear other players you can avoid them for 30 seconds whilst you go around picking up health. |
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Prince Big Woody ![]() Godlike Member ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1961 |
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duel =/= tdm
If you don't like duel don't play it. |
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ninefive ![]() Ultra Member ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 153 |
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yea we have more freedom to argue here, but we dont HAVE to argue, lol its not a requirement
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_EnVy_ ![]() Team Deep Ground ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Location: Da FN TOP OBV Online Status: Offline Posts: 2035 |
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holy sh*t! deadaim showing sportmanship in the fist of fury???
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ninefive ![]() Ultra Member ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 153 |
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well i respect the fact you can respect the ethic code even though you didnt agree with it, shows good character
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SilverJ-17 ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() Silver Coinage Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Location: Western Indiana Online Status: Offline Posts: 1447 |
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Ehh.. it's just the ethics and I respected that, even though I didn't like it.. (even though I never understood see why Redeemer usage was wrong.. Unlike the U-Damage, it respawns every two minutes and only kills once.. or at least it should..) I just took the usual bad losses and shut up.. (though I occasionally complained, mostly to myself..) Of course, I eventually got tired of dueling and stopped all non-Instagib dueling altogether (I started this about a month and half or so ago..), since I personally prefer either the chaos and "mass" power-up usage of DM/ TDM or the vehicle modes.. or messing around offline.. with different mutators, custom maps, and bots.. along with the occasional titan match.. though Instagib dueling is another thing I'll do every so often.. Though....
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_EnVy_ ![]() Team Deep Ground ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Location: Da FN TOP OBV Online Status: Offline Posts: 2035 |
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nope, i read zellots and deadaims response to mine. im way to lazy to filter text...sorry, no offense... |
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RemY ![]() FnA ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: G-('_'Q) Online Status: Offline Posts: 1182 |
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YAY! now back to discussion.
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PcX_Potorikan ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() PcX Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Location: NY Online Status: Offline Posts: 1472 |
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I"m not going to argue with you on this Rev. we have rules. Deragotory remarks are not allowed. Try again some other time gents
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ninefive ![]() Ultra Member ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 153 |
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we cant move this to fists of fury.. thats your job :)
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ReverendCrow ![]() Team VAG ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Location: Rochester Online Status: Offline Posts: 1983 |
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EK_Trendy ![]() Team TRU ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 49 |
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It lasts 30 seconds, but yeah kali speaks the truth |
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PcX_Potorikan ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() PcX Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Location: NY Online Status: Offline Posts: 1472 |
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Have any of you guys read the rules of the forum?
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XKaL1buR ![]() FnA ![]() Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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Read that post again. I know what Strategy is, and it INVOLVES control of key items. Preventing ur opponent from gettin those items is a KEY element of dueling. But the argument was about why it's unfair to use shield belt but not DD. Zero, Zellot, or anybody else that feels this way, send me a friend request, and i'll duel u. Here's the thing: I won't grab the shield belt at all. no shield, no udamage. BUT, YOU must pick it up every time it spawns. Point i'm tryin to make? I'm mostly likely still gonna win. Now, if you were to grab udamage and just whore Stinger Primary, even if i have a shield belt on, i wouldn't last 3 seconds. I'm dead. I spawn, guess what? U still have udamage, and i have no armor or anything. Another easy kill. If i'm not mistaken, DD lasts for 45 seconds. On a map like Sentinel, the match would be over in no time. Shield belt shouldn't even be considered a powerup anyway. x.X
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RemY ![]() FnA ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: G-('_'Q) Online Status: Offline Posts: 1182 |
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None of us are getting angry. We are just pointing you people into the right direction on how dueling is meant to be played. The only reason why people are getting upset is because of your post earlier. I believe you just got pretty damn personal with those attacks to deadaim... |
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ninefive ![]() Ultra Member ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 153 |
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uh most of us were overly nice, my post to you was like from a friend to a friend even though i dont know you. and you come with some stupid "motherf**ker you b**** ass mofo" etc sh*t to me
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