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Topic: MARVEL vs DC
Posted By: Two_Fase
Subject: MARVEL vs DC
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2009 at 4:34pm
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i was having a convo with an individual and he says dc. i have to disagree. i'm going with marvel hands down!!! ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
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Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2009 at 4:37pm
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please. marvel has a bunch of big whiny babies(cyclops missing jean grey...baby) and are overpowered. i'm a mutant, i don't want my powers! i want to be normal! DC has the coolest characters out there. batman all the way along with all the other DC beasts.
the hulk can beat superman. HA! HELL no! ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: GOW_KillinUGood
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2009 at 6:32pm
| pssssh, DC has always had lame characters. Marvel has always been unique, with better stories, cooler powers/mutations, better costumes. I've been a marvel fanboy since I was very young, bought hundreds of marvel comics, never bought a single DC comic, wouldn't keep one if it was given to me. |
Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2009 at 7:58pm
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Put Doomsday, Superman and Batman down. They would wipe out half of Marvel Universe. DC was always better than Marvel. -------------  |
Posted By: Arkos315
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2009 at 8:00pm
what others thats all dc gots... -------------  |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2009 at 8:33pm
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superman would faint just looking at the hulk cause he's green. dc has only a handful (small handful ) of top notch characters. the dc universe is nothing in comparison. in gothom city they don't believe in day light, its always dark. everyone owns a tommygun and can't hit batman with a single bullet. but yet he throws a batarang and can knock two guns out of enemy hands. in metropolis everyone can figure that by taking off glasses clark kent isn't superman. lois is the one that needs them the most. ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2009 at 8:41pm
oh not this crap AGAIN fase. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2009 at 2:23am
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truth hurts, i know. lol ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Helscream
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2009 at 8:54am
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Marvel comics hands down. Their characters have so much more depth, DC universe was a kids comic. Marvel was a man's comic. Take for instance The Incredible Hulk... You see with MOST characters/super hero's they have vurnability's right? But the suspense is the harm that can be delt to the protaganist in MOST comics. But...with the Hulk its different. You see, the Hulk was not vurnable, BUT the vurnability lied in his transformation in the Hulk. Bruce Banner would Hulk out and go around laying siege and destroying everything in his path. He become a monster, a beat that lost reasoning and would go around terrorizing innocent civilians. So Bruce Banner was no vurnable himself, but the fact that he was afraid everytime he lost control he would harm the innocent. And you see this...to a degree makes Hulk a real hero. Bruce Banner knew that when other evil organizations find out about this ''Gamma Technology''. Those evil/corrupt men would use it for there own biding. Those men would use it as a weapon, to destroy whoever got in there way. Bruce Banner cure have cured himself, he could have got rid of the Hulk. But Bruce Banner and the Hulk needed each other. Bruce Banner knew if he removed the Hulk from existence, that there would be no other power capable of stoping the by-products of gamma technology. Bruce Banner knew the Hulk was the only line of defense of humanity against evil. So Bruce Banner, in turned sacrificed his humanity and kept the Hulk. Bruce Banner knew, that even though he would become a monster. He could use this monstrosity to do good. And sacrifice is what define's a hero. I have watched The Dark Knight (Batman), Iron Man, Watchmen, Spiderman 1,2,3, and X-men 1,2,3. But Sorry...but the Incredible Hulk HAS to have the coolest ****ing bar fight brawl against the Abomination. I won't argue that the incredible hulk was not a better movie overall. But the action ****ING OWNS in that movie. I own it on blu-ray. And it looks insane on 1080p And if anyone has heard/read the World War Hulk series. THat **** is crazy. Besides DC universe has the most rediciulous characters. Batman - Unlimited Money, Unparralled looks, Lots of Women, Has everything and then some, no worries in the world. Hell he plays a super-hero likes its a fun hobbie from all the business meetings. Superman - Fast as the speed of light, can go inside the suns core, lazer beam eyes, can freeze things with his breathe. Super Strength, Can mysterious fly/float/levitate. Is aboslutely impervious to harm. And yea, THe Incredible Hulk would destroy superman. I mean comon....superman got killed by doomsday. And the Hulk eats doomsday for breakfeast. ------------- 
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Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2009 at 11:59am
preach helscream preach.  ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2009 at 7:20pm
| mailto:lmao@helscream - lmao@helscream omfg that was amazing seriously marvel>dc by far phoenix>DC alone what is batman going to do against a mutant who can just lift him in the air and control his every movement that goes the same with every other DC Xavier>superman he can make suerman think hes a baby the rest of his life superman doesnt have any type of protection |
Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 12:13am
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Helscream never ceases to make me chuckle... Got a fair point, a trouble super hero makes it easier for us to relate to them rather than someone who is untouchable. ------------- |
Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 1:52am
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I like the fact that marvel has real cities. who the hell lives in Metropolis or Central City? besides, The Watcher could kill everyone in the DC universe if he wants to (he just chooses to watch instead). Wolverine would kill Lobo Capt. America would kick Batman's ass Thor would crush Hawkman, in fact, Angel would kick hawkman's ass imagine ArchAngel. Namor would f up aquaman AND Aqualad Doctor Strange would kick Green laterns ass don't get me started on the villains. Galactus would eat Darkseid and luthor and floss his teeth with MxLPLYX!! ------------- http://eu.playstation.com/psn/profile/PcX_Potorikan/"> 
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 11:34am
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Superman Prime can wipe out everybody in Marvel Universe except: The Phoenix, Professor Xavier, Onslaught and probably Richard Summers. ------------- |
Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 5:13pm
read up on the characters called The Watcher and even the Beyonder (from Secret Wars). They were omnipotent. Snap of a finger and poof. no more Prime earth much less Superman. ------------- http://eu.playstation.com/psn/profile/PcX_Potorikan/">
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Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 6:02pm
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Fase, Rican. you are WRONG again. Read this and consider it
this is what the outcomes were in the 90's.
http://everything2.com/title/Thor - Thor vs. http://everything2.com/title/Captain%2520Marvel - Captain Marvel . Winner: Thor, Marvel Universe.
http://everything2.com/title/Flash - Flash vs. http://everything2.com/title/Quicksilver - Quicksilver . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Flash - Flash , DC Universe. http://everything2.com/title/Aquaman - Aquaman vs. http://everything2.com/title/Sub-Mariner - Sub-Mariner . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Aquaman - Aquaman , DC Universe. http://everything2.com/title/Robin - Robin vs. http://everything2.com/title/Jubilee - Jubilee . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Robin - Robin , DC Universe. http://everything2.com/title/Green%2520Lantern - Green Lantern vs. http://everything2.com/title/Silver%2520Surfer - Silver Surfer . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Silver%2520Surfer - Silver Surfer , Marvel Universe. http://everything2.com/title/Catwoman - Catwoman vs. http://everything2.com/title/Elektra - Elektra . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Elektra - Elektra , Marvel Universe. http://everything2.com/title/Wolverine - Wolverine vs. http://everything2.com/title/Lobo - Lobo . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Wolverine - Wolverine , Marvel Universe. http://everything2.com/title/Storm - Storm vs. http://everything2.com/title/Wonder%2520Woman - Wonder Woman . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Storm - Storm , Marvel Universe. http://everything2.com/title/Spider-man - Spider-man vs. http://everything2.com/title/Super%2520Boy - Super Boy . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Spider-man - Spider-man , Marvel Universe.
http://everything2.com/title/Hulk - Hulk vs. http://everything2.com/title/Superman - Superman . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Superman - Superman , DC Universe. http://everything2.com/title/Captain%2520America - Captain America vs. http://everything2.com/title/Batman - Batman . Winner: http://everything2.com/title/Batman - Batman , DC Universe. but with the hero's and their abilities nowadays, consider this. Spider-Man vs Superboy
Spider-Man has more experience is faster and more agile and more tactically inclined. Superboy (at that time) had very limited control over his tactile telekinesis, no heat vision, no patience, and was overconfident which had led him to being defeated on numerous occasions in his own series. So given the circumstances, Spidey takes it. Hulk vs Superman Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets and has regenerative powers. Superman has unlimited everything from strength, stamina to speed and so on. So since the Hulk isn't magic or magically inclined, Superman takes it. Thor vs Captain Marvel Thor has immense strength and endurance. His hammer allows him to control lighting to an extent and teleport himself or others. He can fly and has great hair. Captian Marvel has the powers of the Greek gods but the mindset of a young boy. Thor's not opposed to killing so I'd give it to Thor since essentially they're pretty evenly matched with sheer power being canceled out by endurance and experience. Thor takes it. Jubilee vs Robin III Robin has the training from Batman as well as other great martial arts masters including but not limited to Lady Shiva (the deadliest woman in the DCU supposedly). He's a grade A detective who was even able to deduce Batman's true identity. Jubilee is a kid with limited control over her abilities and the mentality of a teenage girl (at the time) more than a trained soldier/warrior and her abilities don't directly improve any of her physical characteristics such as speed or stamina. I'd have to say Robin Takes it if only due to better training. Wolverine vs Lobo Wolverine has neigh unbreakable bones (and claws) heightened senses, and a healing factor. Lobo, fall all intents and purposes, can't be killed and can regenerate as long as there is at least one drop of his blood remaining. I won't even bother with the rest. Lobo takes it. Storm vs Wonder Woman Storm has limited control over the weather. Can fly through the use of the wind which means she's also limited by the speed of the wind. She can only manipulated pre-existing weather conditions and can't bring forth weather augmentations that aren't possible on the planet she's on. (see marvel.com) Wonder Woman has powers bestowed upon her by the Greek gods. Enhanced strength, durability, stamina, speed, etc. During this fight she also had Thor's hammer. I still say powers of the gods thwarts limited mutant abilities and with hammer Woman Woman still takes it. Namor the Sub-Mariner vs Aquaman Namor has been shown to have close to hulk level strength and durability. Can fly. High stamina. Aquaman has the ability to communicate with sea creatures, manipulate water, and an improved physiology since he's not exactly human. That being said, Namor takes it just on sheer power alone if on land. If underwater Aquaman has the advantage. Quicksilver vs Flash Barry Allen, the Flash, is the fastest man in the world. Can vibrate molecules to travel through solid objects. He can run faster than the speed of light. Quicksilver is fast. I say the Flash takes it just because he's faster by reason that Quicksilver has never shown any inkling of being able to even approach the speed of light.. Elektra vs Catwoman Elekta is a highly trained mercenary/a**a**in. Catwoman is a highly trained theif. Elektra takes it. Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner) Silver Surfer is endued with the power cosmic. Green Latern's have a power ring that is only limited by their will and the amount of charge within it. Silver Surfer takes it because of the limitations placed on ring bearers in regard to excessive/lethal force. Unless we're talking Ion Kyle Rayner or post Sinestro Corps Kyle Rayner in which case, still a loss but not as much a shut out. Captain America vs Batman Captain America is a super soldier. Enhanced strength, agility, endurance, stamina, and decades of combat experience. Batman is a regular human being at peak physical prowess for a human. He also has decades of experience. Captain America takes it if it's an extended battle if only just because his increased/improved physic will outlast any normal man's. Otherwise they're fairly equal with fighting ability on Batman's side balanced off by speed and strength on Captain America's. what do you think now? ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: THE_KING_ETERNAL
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 12:35am
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Ether come on man Superman can't beat the Hulk man. Doomsday punished superman killed him actually, the hulk on the other doesn't get handled u would have to get bruce banner thats ur only hope. ------------- 
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Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 12:54am
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be serious hulk will dominate superman easily superman does not have unlimited strength or stamina heres is from wiki on supermans death
The Death of Superman
Main article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman - The Death of Superman
In his first encounter with the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League - Justice League , shortly after breaking free from underground, Doomsday defeated the entire team of superheroes in a matter of minutes, which in turn attracted the attention of Superman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_%28comics%29#cite_note-dc-ency-1 - [2] Most notable is the fact that the creature fought the entire time with literally one hand tied behind his back, yet was still able to lay waste to all opposition and much of the surrounding area. The only Justice Leaguer who could even defend herself against Doomsday was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxima_%28comics%29 - Maxima . Also at that time, his naming occurred when League member http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booster_Gold - Booster Gold stated how the rampage resembled "the arrival of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_event - Doomsday ". The comment subsequently reached the broadcast media and thereafter led to the creature's accepted name. During his rampage, Doomsday took interest in billboards and television spots advertising violent wrestling competitions held in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_%28comics%29 - Metropolis , which appealed to his bloodlust and thus enticed the otherwise mindless creature to head towards the city. By counterattacking, Superman quickly found that his opponent's awesome power was a match for his own, and so he realized that if Doomsday actually reached Metropolis, the resulting battle could conceivably destroy the city and kill millions of innocent people. Simultaneously, Doomsday developed a strong desire to murder Superman in particular. That desire was later explained in the Hunter/Prey miniseries: from the agony of continually dying during his creation process, Doomsday developed in his genes the ability to sense anyone Kryptonian, plus an overriding instinct to treat any such beings as an automatic threat (however, it remains unexplained why Doomsday did not also react with this specific type of malice towards the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Henshaw - Cyborg Superman , who at one point possessed Kryptonian DNA; it is at least an indication that his abilities are partly metaphysical). [ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doomsday_%28comics%29&action=edit§ion=3 - edit ] Death in MetropolisIn the space of only a few issues of the Superman comic book series, Doomsday battled Superman in a titanic struggle, leading the hero to conclude that the creature would only continue to attack relentlessly and endlessly, with no urge for surrender. It all culminated in Superman (vol. 2) #75, where in an act of self-sacrifice, Superman refused to give up despite taking serious wounds and running low on stamina. The fight raged to the bitter end, where the two combatants each struck a simultaneous, fatal blow, leaving both of them lifeless in front of the Daily Planet building in Metropolis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_%28comics%29#cite_note-dc-ency-1 - [2]
Hulk>doomsday>DC |
Posted By: SRC_Mr-X
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 1:14am
| Put up Superman , flash, and Captain America..... those three alone would put down marvel. So with that being said let marvel keep whining about there powers and having spiderman make another terrible movie. |
Posted By: Arkos315
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 4:25am
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isnt Captain America Marvel?? ------------- |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 5:08am
you want Wikipedia posts? you've got them. lol.
Flight, speed, heat vision. How many times has Superman fought Mongul and Doomsday now? :P Superman fights guys like the Hulk all the time. They've never been established as equals in any in continuity crossover. Equals in strength maybe, equals overall? Not even remotely close.
Up until the Death of Superman event, DC Comics writers lived on a fixed set of rules when it came to how the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths - post-Crisis Superman's powers were portrayed. This was changed upon his return. The change could be traced to when the Eradicator transformed Kryptonite energy into something that would repower the revived Superman. In a battle with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobo_%28DC_Comics%29 - Lobo , Superman discovered he could survive the vacuum of space indefinitely, something the post-Crisis Superman could not do before his death. He also noticed his strength had increased. Although this was part of a subplot involving Superman's powers growing out of control as he absorbed too much solar energy, the depiction of his power was not as consistent as before.
The only way I can see Supes losing is if he fights like an idiot and forgets half his powers (kinda like how he fought Doomsday when he "died").
The Hulk may get stronger the madder he gets, but that doesn't mean he eventually gets infinitely mad and infinitely strong and that's what he'd have to be to take Supes down because he'd only get one shot before Supes pinned him against the barrier wall just like Darkseid. and to top it off
Adventures of Superman #473. Superman launches an alien spacecraft from Earth into space. The craft was about a mile long and about four times larger then an aircraft carrier which typically are a quarter mile long and weigh 100,000 tons.
Man of Steel #30. Superman punches Lobo into orbit and beyond with a single blow from Earth's surface. http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanlobo7on.jpg - http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?i...manlobo7on.jpg Action Comics #585. Superman muscles overhead a magically animated mountain that was not quite big enough to crush Metropolis in one step. He pressed it overhead, flew it into space and then launched it into orbit around the sun. JLA: World War Three: Superman's strength was used to power the gears of the Mageddon machinery. The gear a**embly was larger then the Earth/Moon system. Superman: Earth Stealers. Superman propelled a cylindrical space station that was 600 miles in diameter and 2500 miles long. It was constructed from all of the natural resources of an entire solar system. Yeah, it weighed a lot. Superman then propelled it through hyperspace. Here's Superman launching a ship the size of a small moon. Don't remember the issue number though. http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanship0vc.jpg - http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?i...manship0vc.jpg Superman and Zod creating earthquakes with their punches. that's got to sting....
just playing around. i've been a DC guy for as long as i can remember. i'm always going to favor them. but yea, wolverine? he should be DC. lol ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 5:24am
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last one...promise
Ok lets be honest, either way it goes, Superman is stronger than hulk no matter how you look at it. Everyone is forgetting, that the hulks strength isn't automatic. He has the potential to be stronger than the man of steel, but it would take him forever to reach the same level, and longer still to surpa** him. For one, we know Superman pulls his punches in most battles. But the example is simple, Superman is bullet proof right off the bat, the hulk has to get angry so his skin becomes bullet proof. The hulks powers are his downfall, the longer he fights, the stronger he becomes. The only way he could beat Superman, is if they were fighting for like a year or something. Then he might be angry enough to surpa** supermans strength. Even then he would still need to deal with the freeze breath, heat vision, speed, flying, and all the other abilities he has. Not to mention that there is nary a force that can stop superman if he gets angry. And for those who think because Hulk can move mountains he's stronger, Superman can move entire planets, a mountain pleads no competition in comparison. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 6:06am
I beg to differ mon ami. see below The Hulk possesses the potential for near-limitless physical strength depending directly on his emotional state, particularly his anger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-38 - This has been reflected in the repeated comment "The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets." The entity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyonder - once claimed that the Hulk's potential strength had "no finite element inside". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-39 - His durability, healing, and endurance also increase in proportion to his temper. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-40 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Pak - described the Hulk shown during http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_Hulk - as having a level of physical power where "Hulk was stronger than any mortal --and most immortals-- who ever walked the Earth." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-41 - The Hulk is resistant to most forms of injury or damage. The extent varies between interpretations, but he has withstood the equivalent of inner solar temperatures, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-42 - nuclear explosions, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-43 - and planet-splitting impacts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-44 - He has been shown to have both regenerative and adaptive healing abilities, including growing tissues to allow him to breathe underwater, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-45 - surviving unprotected in space for extended periods (yet still eventually needing to breathe), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-46 - and when injured, healing from most wounds within seconds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-47 - His powerful legs allow him to leap into lower Earth orbit or across continents, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-48 - and he has displayed sufficient superhuman speed to match http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_%28Marvel_Comics%29 - , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-49 - or the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentry_%28Robert_Reynolds%29 - . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-50 - He also has less commonly described powers, including abilities allowing him to "home in" to his place of origin in New Mexico, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-51 - resist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy - , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-52 - grow stronger from radiation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-53 - or dark magic, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-54 - and to see and interact with astral forms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-55 - [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-55 - 56 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29#cite_note-55 - ] now remember one thing: it doesn't take much to get him mad. and I'm sure he would get more and more pissed as he fights superman. You're making the hulk case for me my friend. Eventually, given time he would defeat superman. as with any match, UFC, Horse races and such it doesn't matter how long the fight takes, it's whoever is standing at the end. Lastly, Superman's powers, as originally defined in the golden age of comics were unamusing at best (ever see the max fleischer cartoons? those were based on that superman). His powers have been defined and re-defined over the course of his tenure at DC. First he could do this, then later he could do more, then sometime in the 80s he was powered down, then again later he was powered up. blah blah blah. The hulk is pretty much the same as he has been since the beginning. of course as his anger become more exerted over time new abilities and powers have surfaced but that's merely progression, not a "ok we have a problem in this story because supposedly he cannot do this.. um...ok let's add that in then, afterwards, there's another story and that same power seems unreasonable so the writer is like "um,, what do we do? oh, let's power him down because he's too too strong." then later on because of other newer heroes subjected him to some sort of pussification the writers were like "ok, we can't have our flagship character seem like such a wuss so let's give him more powers... yea that's the ticket!". pfft. give me a break. so many character re-desings only signify to me that it wasn't that great a character to begin with. ------------- http://eu.playstation.com/psn/profile/PcX_Potorikan/">
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Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 7:34am
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Spider-Man vs Superboy Spider-Man has more experience is faster and more agile and more tactically inclined. Superboy (at that time) had very limited control over his tactile telekinesis, no heat vision, no patience, and was overconfident which had led him to being defeated on numerous occasions in his own series. So given the circumstances, Spidey takes it. I won't disagree with you here but this was not a fair match up with someone like spidey who at the very earliest in his career could lift 70 tons! Hulk vs Superman Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets and has regenerative powers. Superman has unlimited everything from strength, stamina to speed and so on. So since the Hulk isn't magic or magically inclined, Superman takes it. We're still arguing this. let's see when you admit I'm right lol Thor vs Captain Marvel Thor has immense strength and endurance. His hammer allows him to control lighting to an extent and teleport himself or others. He can fly and has great hair. Captian Marvel has the powers of the Greek gods but the mindset of a young boy. Thor's not opposed to killing so I'd give it to Thor since essentially they're pretty evenly matched with sheer power being canceled out by endurance and experience. Thor takes it. I would've made it clear that ur talking about Shazam (believe it or not I think some people will confuse him). I"m not so sure Thor takes this one so easily. Shazam is pretty invulnerable and faster. Btw, Shazam has Solomon's wisdom so he can't be that much of a veggie lol Jubilee vs Robin III Robin has the training from Batman as well as other great martial arts masters including but not limited to Lady Shiva (the deadliest woman in the DCU supposedly). He's a grade A detective who was even able to deduce Batman's true identity. Jubilee is a kid with limited control over her abilities and the mentality of a teenage girl (at the time) more than a trained soldier/warrior and her abilities don't directly improve any of her physical characteristics such as speed or stamina. I'd have to say Robin Takes it if only due to better training. Dude, how ever in the world did they even make this pairing? had she been the jubillee from the past this would've been a no brainer and unfair. Of course I expected Robin to beat her a** if it just comes down to being human vs a human. Wolverine vs Lobo Wolverine has neigh unbreakable bones (and claws) heightened senses, and a healing factor. Lobo, fall all intents and purposes, can't be killed and can regenerate as long as there is at least one drop of his blood remaining. I won't even bother with the rest. Lobo takes it. I read more into him and it turns out his strength has changed over his life. Strength takes it here so Lobo wins I'm afraid. I stand corrected. Storm vs Wonder Woman Storm has limited control over the weather. Can fly through the use of the wind which means she's also limited by the speed of the wind. She can only manipulated pre-existing weather conditions and can't bring forth weather augmentations that aren't possible on the planet she's on. (see marvel.com) Wonder Woman has powers bestowed upon her by the Greek gods. Enhanced strength, durability, stamina, speed, etc. During this fight she also had Thor's hammer. I still say powers of the gods thwarts limited mutant abilities and with hammer Woman Woman still takes it. I won't argue with this one. Wonder Woman should beat storm. Namor the Sub-Mariner vs Aquaman Namor has been shown to have close to hulk level strength and durability. Can fly. High stamina. Aquaman has the ability to communicate with sea creatures, manipulate water, and an improved physiology since he's not exactly human. That being said, Namor takes it just on sheer power alone if on land. If underwater Aquaman has the advantage. How does aqua have the advantage underwater if Namor strength is in direct proportion to his exposure to water? I say Namor still wins it under or overwater Quicksilver vs Flash Barry Allen, the Flash, is the fastest man in the world. Can vibrate molecules to travel through solid objects. He can run faster than the speed of light. Quicksilver is fast. I say the Flash takes it just because he's faster by reason that Quicksilver has never shown any inkling of being able to even approach the speed of light.. Agreed. Also Flash is one of my favorite characters in the Justice league Series. Elektra vs Catwoman Elekta is a highly trained mercenary/a**a**in. Catwoman is a highly trained theif. Elektra takes it. un... yea lol a bit unfair to pair those two against eachother. Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner) Silver Surfer is endued with the power cosmic. Green Latern's have a power ring that is only limited by their will and the amount of charge within it. Silver Surfer takes it because of the limitations placed on ring bearers in regard to excessive/lethal force. Unless we're talking Ion Kyle Rayner or post Sinestro Corps Kyle Rayner in which case, still a loss but not as much a shut out. Agreed. althou another unfair pairing. We're talking the power cosmic here lol Captain America vs Batman Captain America is a super soldier. Enhanced strength, agility, endurance, stamina, and decades of combat experience. Batman is a regular human being at peak physical prowess for a human. He also has decades of experience. Captain America takes it if it's an extended battle if only just because his increased/improved physic will outlast any normal man's. Otherwise they're fairly equal with fighting ability on Batman's side balanced off by speed and strength on Captain America's. had Steve Rogers never drank the serum then this would be a fair fight.
what do you think now? I think these battles were very unfair to both the winners and losers. the idea shoud've been to place two reasonably equal individuals and then make em fight. I mean c'mon, a thief versus a highly skilled a**a**in? An enhanced soldier versus a caped vigilante? not very fair. Fair (and reasonable) would've been: Green Arrow Versus Hawkeye (although that could get messy lol) Robin (pre nightwing) vs. Elektra HawkGirl vs. Valkyrie Black Canary vs Black Widow DarkSeid vs Apocalypse ------------- http://eu.playstation.com/psn/profile/PcX_Potorikan/">
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Posted By: THE_KING_ETERNAL
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 11:08am
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If u ever watch that marvel movie when they fought the hulk he was the only one to ever pick up thor's hammer. Second heat vision won't work on him he might fly back but thats all. Even if u read the onslaught marvel series when every marvel character had to fight onslaught the hulk cracked onslaught's armor open with one hit and this is when jean grey took the bruce banner out of him and left just the raging hulk. So the hulk is a beast u can't F...ck wit him. -------------
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Posted By: EK_Trendy
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 11:15am
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Crossover Comics don't count, the outcomes of each battle is decided by biased fanboys who vote in the cross-over polls. Also, Thanos alone destroys the entire DC Universe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanos Here's some pics of him wrecking house against some of Marvels Finest: http://elrincondeloki.mejorforo.net/users/46/01/73/album/thanos11.jpg http://img111.exs.cx/img111/2192/Thanos_vs_HulkDrax.jpg http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/30322/598885-thanos_surfer_through_super.jpg http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/1421/76mw.jpg http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29279/610430-588184_fncr_cv7_large_super.jpg In fact, the only thing DC has done well is graphic novels. Watchmen, Kingdom Come, and The Killing Joke are the three best things ever to happen to DC. 
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Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 1:30pm
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Posted By: coolworx
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 5:46pm
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Chuck Norris can beat them all with just one roundhousekick :))) Cheers... CoolworX ------------- 
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Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 6:12pm
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Posted By: INCReMENTAL
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 7:27pm
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Wow, r some of you serious, lol.
1 WORD... WOLVERINE ------------- Currently playing MAG nightly with Wopr, we be owning on SVER n the EF CLAN. UT3 got boring, no competition, nothing else to prove, qM got dat **** on lock. |
Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 11:16pm
| be serious dude xavier>superman...you really cant stop someone who can completely control ur thoughts make u do whatever he wants plus kryptonite>superman if lex luther was always able to get his hands on it why cant anyone else superman is a joke the hulks real weakness is when hes bruce |
Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 12:17am
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Posted By: J_Rivers
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 1:12am
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I've never been a huge comic book fan, but I've always liked The Hulk & Wolverine. I have close to two dozen comic book cards from my youth that might actually be worth something. On a similar note, however, what homeboy Heath Ledger produced with The Joker is uncanny & will never be replicated. |
Posted By: Helscream
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 2:39am
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Dude, if you had Superman full power and The Incredible Hulk with mind of Bruce Banner. Winner: Hulk Why? Because Bruce Banner would tell Hulk to go crab a giant boulder of cytonite and force feed it to Superman. THe end. Even someone of strong as Superman will buckle to the essence of a mysterious element. You could throw the most powerful attacks at The Hulk and he can still withstand it. You see in World War Hulk. He he has PREGNANT WIFE killed in an enormous explsion. Now how enraged would you be if you were was murdered? How enraged would you be if your child was murdered? Both at the same time? And don't forget he had intense training on how to fight (Gladiator Style) in World War Hulk. You see, you can through ANYTHING at the Hulk....and he will get back up. You through anything at Superman....something will kill him (Doomsday/crytonite). But then again as stated earlier. Dc universe has the most ridiculous characters (wait he's too powerful, wait now he is too weak, wait lets give him LAZER BEAM EYES, wait lets make him super fast). You can f***ing decide on what you want the character to be. Or why not just pull out Dr.Manhattan, who can just instantly de-materialize everything on the celluar level with his blue neon wing-wong flapping around. How the f*** can you take this character seriously? Just DC just pull it out their a** when they think of characters? Just what did superman sacrifice to become a hero? Not a damn thing. The reason why people pick him because ''oh hes got a pretty boy face, hes fast and super strong, THAT NIGGA IS PIMP FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'' So thats the logic behind superman? Bruce Banner Sacrificed his humanity. And lets not forget when it comes to enemys, every enemy superman fought was SEVERLY mismatch. Superman was always facing opponents weaker than him, he always fought opponents who never had a chance to begin. And then Doomsday comes along (finally a REAL challenge). And Guess what? Superman got his a** whooped, he didn't know what to think. The Hulk on the other hand, had alot of enemys their were natural more powerful than he was. But through emotionial stress ( vary on how high it was) would eventually allow him the upper hand. But even the Hulk occasionally was defeat (knocked unconsious) but NEVER killed or mortally wounded (if he was, he would reconver). -------------
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Posted By: Helscream
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 2:42am
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Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 2:48am
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this is fun. lol. all this pent up energy getting thrown around two superheros. awesome.
but...i will NOT give up. you hear me! NEVER! ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 2:58am
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but wow....gunning for big blue aren't we. but lets not forget what he faced. here's Doomsday. and he's one scary Mo Fo. this may hurt my case, but damn, this guy is crazy.
Doomsday was created and evolved through cloning an infant and having it killed over and over again by one of the most dangerous species of the universe and in one of the harshest habitats in existence, prehistoric Krypton. As such, he returns to life and becomes resistant or immune to what killed him before. After the Radiant killed him the first time they fought, Doomsday grew immune to the former's energy-projection, and even managed to withstand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkseid - Darkseid 's full Omega-Effect. The amount of damage dealt to Doomsday determines the length of time it would take to fully recover. During his outwardly undamaged death at Superman's hands, he only needed some days to recover, but when http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperiex - Imperiex reduced him to a skeleton, it would take months. Doomsday can also develop/evolve resistance from ordinary injuries. Superman once used a sound gun to greatly discomfort him, but Doomsday's auditory canals closed up, making him impervious to Superman's weapon. Waverider once paralyzed Doomsday with chronal energy, but the second attempt backfired. In essence, Doomsday gradually turns more invulnerable if not injured beyond his ability to recover, which is so far undefined. Doomsday has also developed weapons and abilities that counters the powers of an opponent. He managed to cancel out the pure-energy Radiant by slamming into him, and greatly extend his claws and develop a poison to strike Superman in flight and reel him in, or breathe flames against the fire-sensitive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_Manhunter - Martian Manhunter . Doomsday is covered by bony http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spur - spurs providing protection to his few vital organs (brain, eyes, nervous system) and acting as weapons on his hands, elbows and knees. Doomsday possesses extreme physical strength that considerably exceeds that of Superman, at one point enabling him to effortlessly stand his ground against the entire Justice League, including Superman and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_%28comics%29 - Orion . He was able to break Superman's left arm with limited effort, as well as outmatch and beat Darkseid unconscious in physical combat. Doomsday is immensely resistant to heat, cold, and conventional damage, allowing him to survive on the most inhospitable worlds, or in the vacuum of space. His durability apparently also considerably exceeds that of Superman, as he was able to withstand Darkseid´s full-powered "Omega Effect" without any shown damage. Doomsday possesses seemingly inexhaustible stamina, and was not noticeably slowed down from fighting Superman for an entire day. His reflexes and speed are vastly beyond what's expected for his bulky size, and has been able to match Superman in this regard. He cannot fly, but rather travels by leaping miles at a time. Superman took advantage of this in their first battle by trying to keep him airborne, as the sky was his element. Doomsday has a highly accelerated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healing_factor - healing factor that allows him to quickly regenerate from most damage. When his side was cut by Superman with a plasma sword, it closed within moments. As a result of his engineering, Doomsday does not need to eat, drink, breathe, or sleep, and his body is almost solid ma** with few vulnerable organs. Doomsday is now genetically part- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptonian - Kryptonian due to his genes having been spliced with Kal-El's, however with the exception of his flame-breath, he has displayed no additional abilities. In fact, he was shown weaker than previously when he was singlehandedly beaten by Superman, which should not have been possible given previous accounts. This was rationalized as due to intelligence that he developed, causing him to fear the death that awaited him if he lost, but does not explain how a simple minor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion - concussion could incapacitate his healing-factor for the time he remained unconscious. However, he lost his intelligence when sent back in time, reverting him to his original state of fearlessness. Once he gained some of Superman's Kryptonian DNA, he became susceptible to Kryptonite. Unlike Superman, it causes him pain, but cannot kill him. This was done to render him controllable. WeaknessesDepending on the comic Doomsday has different weaknesses but ultimately in his ultimate form as seen in recent comics he has no weaknesses. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 3:03am
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one more thing....Superman the comic Kingdom Come states....ahem....Due to a lifetime of absorbing yellow-solar radiation, he is more powerful than ever, and is even immune to kryptonite. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 3:09am
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Doomsday is still a creature that has thought.....so in theory Professor X or any other physic can beat him. touche ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 3:13am
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dude give it up! lol. this is a Superman/Hulk fight. leave the professor out of this. don't make me bring in Martian Manhunter into this! ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 3:17am
the topic is marvel vs. dc. a royal rumble between the two. but if you wanna stick to the man with an idenity crisis and a monster that would eat him alive then again HULK wins. lol ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 3:31am
so be it....this is war.
JLA vs. X-Men. BRING it ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 3:55am
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jla versus x men? omg u done opened the door there buddie.. start a new thread tho.. it's gonna need it lol I'll give you a hint as to where that will turn.. two words Dark Phoenix ka-ching! ------------- http://eu.playstation.com/psn/profile/PcX_Potorikan/">
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Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 3:59am
is dark phoenix part of the x-men team...or a villain? i'm not sure myself...that's why i'm asking. if she's the villian...then FAIL! doesn't count. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 4:06am
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well I should amend that to say just plain phoenix. but even still the phoenix force would be enough I"m afraid. we have to clarify which xmen period and which JLA period. obviously that's changed from time to time. you decide mr DC (dopey Comics) :P ------------- http://eu.playstation.com/psn/profile/PcX_Potorikan/">
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Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 5:15am
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i'll leave that up to you guys. you pick the X-men, and i'll pick the JLA. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Heavenly_tRiNiTy
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 10:00am
Since Fase and Ether got me to listen to the "my dad is badder thn ur dad" debate in a chat last night then i'm gonna have a say. RE: Hulk - Since when has untold strength been enough to overcome Speed, strength, skill, tactics, intelligence? Superman wins because he is more versatile than Hulk because the Hulk has to be in primevil rage. Hey whilst he's on a god-like superman is capping the flags. But Hulk could take Superman cos he's not invincible/invulnerable. And minor point but still, how in the hell does Hulk's clothes fit after he body size reduces? And can I remind you that all super heroes are vunerable - the perfect SH doesn't exist afaik. Batman - SH or a crime fighter? The recent films suggest the latter but in the comics he has Bat senses doesn't he? So many inconsistences - i'll go for Barbie with a couple of ballistics that would lay any of the SH you've mentioned to waste. Oh! yea and she's a wonder woman - least to me she is!! 
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Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 11:35am
| even if dark phoenix is part of villians its part of marvel this was never about goodvsgood it was marvel vs DC and if it is hulk vs superman...crpytonite... done and done lex can get it then so can hulk |
Posted By: Unique
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 11:40am
Theres No Need To urgue we all know Donald Duck and Tweety would own all........tweety FTW LMAO   
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Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 1:42pm
| yes a queer guy talks acts and looks like a girl but is a guy is going to pwn all |
Posted By: THE_KING_ETERNAL
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 4:31pm
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then if if throw in Thor, vulcan, and loki all omega level mutants. -------------
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 6:34pm
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If u guys still debating who will win: Superman vs. Hulk, the Hulk will win. Now, there are all types of Supermans in DC Universe: The Original Superman, Superman Red, Superman Blue, Superman Kal-L, Superman Kal-El and the most powerful Superman of all ( Superman Prime ). It could be others which I don't know. The Hulk can easily take down the Original Superman. ------------- |
Posted By: THE_KING_ETERNAL
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 9:50pm
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Thank u oneman1army at least u get that the hulk would beat superman now ether its time for u to understand and admit u were wrong. -------------
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 11:27am
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Ok. I was wrong about the Hulk beat Superman. I talked to my brother cuz he knows alot about Marvel and DC. There are several Hulks too just like Supermans in DC Universe. You have to be specific which Superman who's gonna lose the Hulk. I can tell you this tho: Superman Kal-L, Superman Kal-EL and Superman Prime would wipe the floor of any Hulks in Marvel Universe. ------------- |
Posted By: HanFei
Date Posted: 02 May 2009 at 1:56pm
| As a casual fan, I prefer Marvel. |
Posted By: Supreme_Venom
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:08am
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i think all of you should check out Hulk vs Wolverine and Hulk vs. Thor animated movies Marvel is always been the best, the old arcade games the storylines.
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Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 2:29pm
never going to switch. you should join my side. then we would win like always. lol ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Heavenly_tRiNiTy
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 4:45pm
| Hulkster could never take down tha pink panther....hes to smart! Brains always defeats brawn ask Samson vout Delilah or Goliath bout David you'll soon solve the superman vs hulk debate.. |
Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 5:00pm
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yes a man that gets over powered by a stupid rock aka kryptonite is going to beat a monster who has limitless power ------------- 
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 7:19pm
Im never gonna switch to Marvel. DC characters are like Gods. ------------- |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 7:25pm
you the man ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 7:54pm
Hold up. Isn't Dark Phoenix is evil? When Jean Grey became the Dark Phoenix, she was evil. Therefore, you will lose this argument that the Dark Phoenix will win. She (Dark Phoenix) will wipe out the X-Men in sight. Now if you talk about the Phoenix, then you have a point. ------------- |
Posted By: Zellot
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:17pm
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forget Marvel Forget DC Image Has the best characters around -------------  |
Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:36pm
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:43pm
Back what I was saying, Dark Phoenix didn't care about no one. She'll kill whoever gets in her way including the X-Men. ------------- |
Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:45pm
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ok but isnt she still MARVEL... yes... ok thennnn -------------
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:50pm
Yes, she is in Marvel. What's your point?
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Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:52pm
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:52pm
Yes, she is in Marvel. What's your point?
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Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:58pm
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r u really that retarded.... lets see ur argument was shes a bad guy... my argument when did this become good vs good...ur argument she didnt care about anyone she even killed xmen... my argument she still marvel this was never about good v good... its about marvel vs dc...wow.... -------------
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Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:59pm
your kidding right? lol ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:02pm
agreed...what? if i had to rank them
1.) DC
2.) anything but marvel or image
3.) marvel
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:06pm
Apparently, your the one who's being an idiot. It seems like you can't read and understand any what I talking about. Dark Phoenix is NOT IN X-MEN. ------------- |
Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:20pm
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guys, tone it down a notch.. it's supposed to be a friendly debate. let's keep it as such. thx ------------- http://eu.playstation.com/psn/profile/PcX_Potorikan/">
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Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:22pm
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on that note, I posted a huge thread on the hulk. we have yet to see the hulks true potential and one man has a point.. there have been all sorts of Supes and even dif Hulk versions out there. some hulks will beat some superman's and vice versa. this dilemna will never get truly resolved so it's officially a stalemate. now.. that said.. marvel universe is better and cooler than dc universe... nuff said :P ------------- http://eu.playstation.com/psn/profile/PcX_Potorikan/">
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Posted By: EK_Trendy
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:27pm
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Ummmm If the argument was X-Men vs JLA then Dark Phoenix is a non-factor. Dark Phoenix was never in the X-Men, Jean Grey was. DP was simply a super enraged merging of Jean Grey and the Phoenix Force that was completely out of control. That's like saying Parallax is part of the JLA because he used to be Green Lantern. Most, if not all, members of the X-Men are very low tiered characters within the Marvel Universe, whereas nearly every member of the JLA is a high tier DC character. A better topic would be JLA vs The Avengers. Each team holds several power house characters while the X-Men would get slapped around like play things by either team. As for the Hulk vs Superman topic: Many people seem to be downplaying supes and overhyping Hulkster. Hulk DOES NOT have limitless power, and has been outclassed by several characters below superman's level. Hulk has NEVER successfully stood up to cosmic level threats whereas Superman has bested Darkseid (a F***** God), Doomsday, and Orion. Btw, neither of those two characters are even close to the power levels of the true top tier's of each universe. Both superman and Hulk would get squashed by the real power houses. |
Posted By: ninefive
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:04pm
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marvel dc was boring most of the timeoh and mr.sinister, apoc, or any of the "cosmic" level marvel villans would pretty much sh*t on anything dc has, superman included
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Posted By: EK_Trendy
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:32pm
yeah uh, apoc and mr. sinister are pansies compared to the likes of thanos and galactus. and neither is "cosmic" level, not even close. |
Posted By: ninefive
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:47pm
apoc mr. sinister thanos or galactus would sh*t on dc comics.
living tribunal is about as cosmic as it gets
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Posted By: WaRHore
Date Posted: 08 May 2009 at 2:42am
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Ok if this was 1991 and you wanted my opinion, I woud have screamed Marvel for sure. They had cornered the market with their big gun anti-heros and claw wielding furocius animals like Wolverine. From chromium and glow in the dark covers To 12 diffrent varients for every issue #1. But it was all crap. Marvel certainly had the best stable of artists like Jim Lee, Todd McFarlane and Mar Silvestri. And they have produced some of the most beutiful comic art ever and thats great but where were the stories??. What marvel story is one to remember in the last 15 years?? The only one that comes to my mind is Marvels which just retold Marvel's history through one mans perspective. I'm sorry but DC has kicked the crap out of Marvel as far as story telling with depth. They have some of the most talented writers today. I agree with Helscream about the Hulk, he is a more complex character than some believe but I think he was talking about the Hulk from the movie and his origin story but other than that what Hulk story has brought attention from the media?? Which Hulk story had you at the Comic shop waiting for the clerk to put the issue on the shelf? The death of Superman storyline was on every channel from Mtv to CNN. Because it was a great story. But I thought the way he was brought back sucked but the death storyline was one of the best reads ever. It actually went to paperback and became a N.Y. Times best-seller. D.C maybe old but their classic and just because most of them don't carry ridiculous weapons and have mutie powers or ever-changing uniforms doesn't mean they can't be good characters. Maybe its my old age and my taste has changed but I tell you this old guy walks right to the D.C. section past Marvel stuff every Wednesday. And I didn't even mention Kindome Come which was released about 13 years ago and in my opinion the best Comic to come out in the last 25 years. Marvel hasn;t produced anything close to its quality. If you haven't read it do it tells the possible future of the D.C. universe. ------------- |
Posted By: EK_Trendy
Date Posted: 08 May 2009 at 3:34am
I agree with the majority this post, especially the 1991 era for Marvel (year of The Infinity Gauntlet and Thanos Quest). Marvel has certainly been lacking in the storyline department for the past few years, Thor has gotten completely out of hand and spider man has nearly become a parody comic. The only noteworthy storyline to come out of Marvel in the past few years is Annihilation. I am also glad to see that someone else brought up Kingdom Come, as that truly is one of the overall best comics I've ever read. The storyline was gripping, the characters were all bad ass, and the art was simply amazing. Nice to read a post on here where someone actually knows what the hell they're talking about instead of spewing garbage. The only thing I would say is give Marvel Annihilation a shot. |
Posted By: ninefive
Date Posted: 08 May 2009 at 3:12pm
| i didnt follow it, but the whole civil war thing seemed intresting |
Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 10 May 2009 at 10:03pm
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Ether 115 TWO_FASE 582. marvel's better i'm sorry. i know it's hard to take in. ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 13 May 2009 at 5:11pm
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more reasons why DC>Marvel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlLeCu63HCA&feature=channel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlLeCu63HCA&feature=channel ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 13 May 2009 at 5:26pm
and isn't it quite interesting that considering you're a Marvel fan, you're name is based off of a, OH let me say it!
Please let me say it!
ahem....a DC character....hmmmm....quite suspicious.
come on fase. tell us all how you feel about DC. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: ReverendCrow
Date Posted: 13 May 2009 at 5:51pm
please lets not get into a emo bat -------------
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Posted By: Two_Fase
Date Posted: 13 May 2009 at 6:59pm
(Deep Breath) marvel will always be DOMINANT. there are about 30-40 characters i can name off the top of my head. dc has about 5 to 10 that i know dealing with superman and batman. so having said that i had to give dc a little recognition cause the good marvel names were taken ------------- Anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die is the only thing you should fear |
Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 8:17am
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got to stir up the old pot about how DC rules ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 8:27am
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And people call me a nerd. Fine, Lunchy comics just came out, there is one guy that can do anything imaginable, he thinks it, he can do it. He is immortal, the whole 9 yards. Now what? ------------- Pepsi puppies get more puppy pussy. |
Posted By: FehtalaTee
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 11:04am
(NERD MODE) MARVEL! IS THE SHlT SO FVCK THE FVCK OFF AND MARVEL WILL ALWAYS BE THE SHlT!!! (NERD MODE off) but yea man MARVEL has all the best heros and villains. just like 2fase said i can name 40 or 50 of my head. iron man will out smart super man any day. (enough said)-------------  Me and Penguins about to go HAAAAAM!!
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Posted By: FehtalaTee
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 11:09am
------------- Me and Penguins about to go HAAAAAM!!
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Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 11:13am
don't push me. i could get my older brother in here and shut you guys the hell up. lol and you know i can own your ass in any VCTF match. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: FehtalaTee
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 11:28am
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do u realy want some of this? do u realy want me to bring the web sling slinging bltch in this mothofvcka?!! ca i will and vctf dont got nothn on this!
REPRESENT..........MARVEL!!!! ------------- Me and Penguins about to go HAAAAAM!!
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Posted By: Ether404
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 11:37am
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nice title. ------------- If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF. |
Posted By: FehtalaTee
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 12:21pm
OMG change it back or im telling Daabomb ------------- Me and Penguins about to go HAAAAAM!!
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Posted By: jesse
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 12:56pm
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hard to pick a favorite. this decision, will take time
feh---daabomb not daadomb ------------- shine on you crazy diamond |
Posted By: FehtalaTee
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 1:13pm
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wow sry u guys my mistakes r getten worst ------------- Me and Penguins about to go HAAAAAM!!
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 1:35pm
Yawn |
Posted By: FehtalaTee
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 2:24pm
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aww...1 man vs a army....yawn lol ------------- Me and Penguins about to go HAAAAAM!!
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Posted By: OneMan1Army
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 2:46pm
I fix that for ya. One of Superman ability is intelligence. So yes, Superman would of out smart Iron Man they attempt to fight each other. |