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Topic: I need some work ;)
Posted By: WOPR-1
Subject: I need some work ;)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2009 at 3:23pm
I've still had no luck finding a job so I need to give myself some technical work to keep my head in the game.  I'm creating some other random Network/IT work for myself but I thought it wouldn't be a bad idea to diversify and do some web stuff here as well.  So I'm just looking for some feedback on what my project here ought to be.  I had 2 main things on my list before I was pulled away....

1) Designing a new main page that was more functional and informative...so instead of an image with some links there would be maybe some gaming news feeds...featured gaming video...featured clan...or whatever else you/I think we might want on there.

2) Hosting UT3 custom content (maps, mutators, etc) downloads.  So that you or anyone could come here on your PC or your PS3 and download a map directly from iamgaming.  A few months ago I had a beta version of my code up and running but I needed to fix a few security related things before I could release it...then it would be a matter of collecting and uploading maps.

If you guys have other things that are reasonable side projects for the site that you think would be a better use of my time please post and let me know.


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Posted By: JakeT111
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2009 at 3:45pm
I was thinking of making a mod site when I was bored a few months back. I even made the url (just a free blog) but then I realised how pointless it would be as no one would use it. Also it would only be stuff people could get elsewhere anyway.

Don't think a mod site would be a worthwhile exercise but feel free if you want to. Same with a featured clan or something, there's only a few left!

Don't wanna bash your ideas, I know I'm not exactly helping here.


Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2009 at 3:45pm
I like that feature option, where you could highlight a team or player, preferably on the ladders (as some kind of incentive if anything).

Next to that a feature that allows mods to make news articles might be nice as well to announce stuff such as say the next iAM event, perhaps brief interviews with teams who won an event and stuff like that.

Another idea could be some new link along the Home, Ladders, IRC Chat, Frag Videos and Live Stream ones that could give a nice overview of the current standings and teams in the currently active league (or the 2v2 tourney if it's still underway..). You could also include the dates, and give moderators or at least some kind of acces to the league admins.

Actually if you want to figure out more features you could probably check out GameBattles.com or ConsoleGaming.eu, as those are some active console gaming ladder sites (not for ut3, obviously).

Also if you're gonna be starting on the map thing again I'll help if you want me to, last time I kind of forgot to reply to what you'd asked me to.

I pretty much realise this is a lot, but you asked for suggestions :P


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Posted By: puertoRICAN
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2009 at 4:05pm
i agree with drokun. but i think the clan idea might not work Bcuz there sersly is not that many active 
clans left. i haven't seen that many clan match's happen for a good while. the iAM events seem to 
be looking good and if the CTF event has Enuff people then getting that to be organized a little better
would be nice. (Not to say Ric0 and Remy are not doing a great job, Bcuz they are)
NEway, good 2 see ya back WOPR! :)  


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Posted By: BAIN
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2009 at 4:11pm
I think that a centralized, easy to use, custom content download section would be nice.

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Posted By: Dr4g0v
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2009 at 5:21pm
ask to Rudy for the design and a custom download

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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 6:05am
Make a MW2 site just like this... 

You will have active clans and more than 50 people online.


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 6:15am
Why would they have a reason to come to this site while there's Gamebattles, ConsoleGaming and several other ladder sites?

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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 7:32am
Originally posted by Drokun

Why would they have a reason to come to this site while there's Gamebattles, ConsoleGaming and several other ladder sites?

Oh yeah, good point. Thank for reminding me that only dead games need sites like this.

Good point Drokun.


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 9:44am
This is just a forum for some ppl who play the same game, the main difference between these forums and the ones on those sites is that there's less 12 year old kids who think they're gonna go pr0.

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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 9:45am
Yep again, spot on we have 35 year olds on here who still think they are gonna go pro.

Another point well made by Drokun.


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 9:53am
Are you saying they're the same? In that case there'd be no point at all for CoD players in coming to this site..  Others have frequent leagues, tournaments and ladders with prizes. Also clans who actually want to play matches.


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:12am
Yep another solid point the COD community is way more active. 

Its way better to keep this site small and just with players who have played ut3 because it really increases the chances of the site ever going somewhere. I mean less players who know about ut3 the better right?

If UT3 had just 5% of the COD community aware that it was a good game then you might see more than 16 players online at peak times. 

So to conclude (in my conversation with WOPR) I think your time would be well spent putting your efforts into a project with more interest and something you enjoy playing. I'm not saying it has to be COD but the MAG game might be an idea. You have already shown you can network well with fragged nation... you might be able to make yourself some proper money if you put your efforts into a project that has potential to expand rather than just decrease slowly until only Drokun is online playing with himself.


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:27am
If I was a CoD player I'd see no reason at all to frequent here, away from the active community and big tournaments/ladders/prizes. The main things one could do for something like this one are probably create a few CoD subforums and hope for ex-UT3 clans to bring some friends over, which obviously has been very succesful so far..

Also probably get some game-specific mods, who moderate their game's forums.
I have no idea how hard it'd be to get a sponsor, if you're lucky you may find one for a small 16 team tournament (I forgot how many players vs how many players it was in CoD matches, but you'd probably need like 5-6 per team excluding subs, meaning at least 96 CoD players).

Anyway, that's if you were interested in CoD, but that's got little to do with your original question after some scripting related work.


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:30am
move here? I never said to move here...

I said make a site like this for COD players... like this does not mean move here.


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:30am
Originally posted by Danjel8

Make a MW2 site just like this... 

You will have active clans and more than 50 people online.

Look... Make a MW2 site just like this...


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:38am
If I'd make a site with about 20 CoD players, would you get excited for it if I told you it may have 16(!!) team tournaments if we're really lucky, while established sites have tried and tested systems, a huge clanbase, 64 team tournaments etc.. There's just no reason for players to come here, only way they might come is if friends told them to sign up.

Also iAMgaming is supposed to be a multi-gaming site, it'd be easier to just make the subforums like the UT3 section is right now rather than make an entire new site and pay for hosting there.


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:41am
Are you actually medically cla**es as a retard?

In my other posts I've said clearly that it doesn't have to be for COD. Something that WOPR enjoys is my suggestion. I don't know why you felt the need to stick your nose in but thanks for your input, its truly positive as ever!

Seriously Drokun I don't advise people to ever take drugs but it sound like you really need something to lighten your life up.


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:42am
Originally posted by Danjel8

Yep another solid point the COD community is way more active. 

Its way better to keep this site small and just with players who have played ut3 because it really increases the chances of the site ever going somewhere. I mean less players who know about ut3 the better right?

If UT3 had just 5% of the COD community aware that it was a good game then you might see more than 16 players online at peak times. 

So to conclude (in my conversation with WOPR) I think your time would be well spent putting your efforts into a project with more interest and something you enjoy playing. I'm not saying it has to be COD but the MAG game might be an idea. You have already shown you can network well with fragged nation... you might be able to make yourself some proper money if you put your efforts into a project that has potential to expand rather than just decrease slowly until only Drokun is online playing with himself.

danjel8 clearly suggests here that WOPR should do a project 'he' (not drokun) enjoys.




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Posted By: RemY
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:46am
Originally posted by Danjel8

Make a MW2 site just like this... 

You will have active clans and more than 50 people online.


Waste of time imo. Just keep it as a subforum and advertise iam as it is.


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:49am
Originally posted by RemY

Originally posted by Danjel8

Make a MW2 site just like this... 

You will have active clans and more than 50 people online.


Waste of time imo. Just keep it as a subforum and advertise iam as it is.

good job I wasn't giving it you as a suggestion then wasn't it.


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:50am
Any new game will automatically be added to ConsoleGaming and GameBattles as well. Clans who were already on that site will just sign their team up on the new ladder on the same site, and they won't have to make a new account and it's an easy transition. Besides that they already know what to expect and with the blind match finder it's easy to get a match without too much notice.

If you can't pick up new games what's left, dead games? I suppose you could build up the community from unpopular games, although that will take forever.

Just look at how many signed up for the UT3 FraggedNation ladders, even signing up on that site is too hard for our community. Even with a guide. People signed up on a ladder site just had to register once and from there can join any game they like, with 100+ clans ranked on the most popular ones.


What is the point anyway of dividing up several games over several sites if you can just all the games on 1 site.


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:55am
kali of course he can... if I'm asking for them. However I'm giving WOPR suggestions... like he asked.

I don't really give two sh1ts about what Drokun needs to complain about or write off today.

And Drokun the dead games forum is quite a good idea, it might take forever but at least you would have committed players who want it to work. But yes it would take forever and therefore as it sounds like WOPR wants something new to do, why not take a chance on covering a new game? 

Its just a waste of time trying to promote dead games at least if he makes a popular forum for a popular game he could sell it on (possibly)

I signed up for the fragged nation and that was one of the final straws for me... which is why I think his efforts would be far more rewarded from doing something else. I really don't understand why its so hard to see what I'm saying.


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Posted By: HottChick
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 11:05am
I think you should redo the whole site. Make it more Iamgaming, not so UT3 based. Attract gamers from several different games. Keep all the best threads and diversify with new ones. Multi game mutli platform. Maybe throw in an old skool thread for those still playing old systems.

EDIT: Clans are playing more than UT3.

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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 11:10am
Originally posted by HottChick

I think you should redo the whole site. Make it more Iamgaming, not so UT3 based. Attract gamers from several different games. Keep all the best threads and diversify with new ones. Multi game mutli platform. Maybe throw in an old skool thread for those still playing old systems.

EDIT: Clans are playing more than UT3.

Amen, good idea!! We already have a positive base to start from why not get more people on here!


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 11:14am
You guys should try the 'Other Video Games' subforums.
Obviously they won't get as many subforums as UT3 until there's at least some activity going on in there.


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 11:16am
Originally posted by Drokun

You guys should try the 'Other Video Games' subforums.
Obviously they won't get as many subforums as UT3 until there's at least some activity going on in there.

Tried it already... just think its time for the site to have a major rethink even if it means it being down for a few days..


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 11:18am
What do you want them to add then? Other than some subforums and that the 'ladders' direct to the UT3 ladders I don't really see what's so UT3 exclusive.

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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 11:23am
Originally posted by Drokun

What do you want them to add then? Other than some subforums and that the 'ladders' direct to the UT3 ladders I don't really see what's so UT3 exclusive.

I think I'll pm WOPR...


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Posted By: XKaL1buR
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 11:40am
How about this: A section on the site where people could write up reviews for games (Anyone could write them, but obviously they'd have to be as unbiased as possible), and/or a section for tips/cheats/strategies for those games.

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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 2:05pm
I don't see why we couldn't compress the UT3 section a bit and give CoD: MW2 it's own section (outside of "other video games"), though it might make the site less appealing to new members and everyone in general.  Sites that take longer to scroll through are generally not well liked.  However, I see this as a better alternative to making a whole new "sister" site.  This is iAMGaming, not iAM PlayingUt3.  Alternately, MAG (when it comes out) and CoD could get their own section (which they share) and any clans that join from those games (plus from UT3, like F.U.K.) get a clan base inside the general forum.

It either could be like General Form and below would be clan bases or a General form and a clan base forum.  Of course, this might seem a bit unfair, so maybe UT3's forums should all be merged to.  After all, I don't really see a point for PS3, 360, and PC forums, especially when the latter two aren't so active anymore.  The clans in the 360 Clan Base would be moved into the PS3 clan base forum.


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Posted By: warfare
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 3:04pm
Maybe something along the lines of the UT Forums...  They have the separate sections for Gears, UT3, UT2003/2004, UC2 and so on.  I still think the majority of people would be posting on the UT3 threads but it would make it more like a true multi-gaming site. 


Posted By: YINYANG
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 3:14pm
hopefully you can change the look , have sections for FPS , fighting, racing , rpgay, just have a moderator for each section, UT3 is only one game with a small community. either that or make a really fancy flash intro for the site

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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by warfare

Maybe something along the lines of the UT Forums...  They have the separate sections for Gears, UT3, UT2003/2004, UC2 and so on.  I still think the majority of people would be posting on the UT3 threads but it would make it more like a true multi-gaming site.


My idea is..

Step 1: Post a Thread in "General Video Games"

Step 2: If it gets enough support, make a forum for it in "Other Video Games."

Step 3 (which might of not been thought of before): If it garners extraordinary support and/ or the forum maintains a steady activity for one to two months, make a section for said game.

All we'd have to do then is define "enough support" and "extraordinary support."


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Posted By: Cruel IntentionZ
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 3:28pm
how about a seperate forum to discuss shoes? me and drokes would be in heaven! Big smile

okay.. in all seriousness i like the forums just the way they are, but as more people are branching out into other games it makes sense to tailor the site to the members interests.

i like the review section idea, but not just for games, how about  books, albums and movies too? and if you want to take it further from the original gaming concept maybe even a debate section where were we can argue about important stuff (i.e should abortion be legal, the death penalty etc) rather than the usual UT3 bull****. it'd be nice to have debate on here about something meaningful and the one thing everyone on the site has in common is the fact they love a good argument!




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Posted By: warfare
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 3:33pm
Silver J-17 those sound like good ideas.  But come to think of it, are there really enough people that visit this site to make it worth changing everything?  How many people who are members of this site came initially only because of UT3....I would say everyone.  The only way you are ever going to get people who play other games (and who know nothing of UT3) is to support tournaments, like Gamebattles does, otherwise where is the incentive to leave an active site like Gamebattles to come to a site like this one to talk about their game?


Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 3:34pm
Possible solution: Make a debate sub-forum to Fists of Fury.  Also, I'd like to see Fists of Fury taken out of the UT3 area, since could also be a place for feuding in other games and general discussion.  Anyways, I'd love to debate about what I support and not support.

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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by SilverJ-17

I don't see why we couldn't compress the UT3 section a bit and give CoD: MW2 it's own section (outside of "other video games")

How could we ever contain the ma**ive amount of 3 MW2 threads like that?

though it might make the site less appealing to new members and everyone in general.  Sites that take longer to scroll through are generally not well liked.

Have a button that makes the particular gameforums pop up or in.


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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by Drokun

Originally posted by SilverJ-17

I don't see why we couldn't compress the UT3 section a bit and give CoD: MW2 it's own section (outside of "other video games")

How could we ever contain the ma**ive amount of 3 MW2 threads like that?


I'm pretty sure it will become a lot more than 3 threads if Danjel has any say in it.. and there is no new site made for CoD and MAG.  I can imagine CoD and MAG fans potentially being invited over here and so on (in a similar fashion to how I was invited/ told to join here via RTO)  After all, I think F.U.K. was talking about recruiting people on CoD.  We could easily just start with their new recruits joining.  If they join and find the site appealing, then they might tell others and the others will tell more and.. with more and more CoD/ MAG people, there will surely be more just than 3 threads.


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Posted By: RemY
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by Danjel8

Originally posted by Danjel8

Make a MW2 site just like this... 

You will have active clans and more than 50 people online.

Look... Make a MW2 site just like this...


^^ That would be a waste of time and money. However making iam branching into other games and not focusing on ut as much has a shot.


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Posted By: SP61gTSupra
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by XKaL1buR

How about this: A section on the site where people could write up reviews for games (Anyone could write them, but obviously they'd have to be as unbiased as possible), and/or a section for tips/cheats/strategies for those games.
nice, i already do Movie and Game reviews on my myspace account.  Id love to write exclusively for iamgaming. and of course, unbias.


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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 7:33pm
Originally posted by RemY

Originally posted by Danjel8

Originally posted by Danjel8

Make a MW2 site just like this... 

You will have active clans and more than 50 people online.

Look... Make a MW2 site just like this...


^^ That would be a waste of time and money. However making iam branching into other games and not focusing on ut as much has a shot.


There's two other reason not to make another site.  I honestly think it is time to pull back some of the UT3 support and shift to focus more to other games.  After being away for a month or two, I can tell that CoD (and other games) has clearly taken a good bite/ chunk out of UT3's community (ie the servers).  Modern Warfare 2 did something Killzone 2 couldn't really do, it accelerated the UT3 community's decline.  I don't recall Killzone 2 doing even remotely as much damage.  I feel that MAG is only going to add on to the accelerated decline.


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Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2009 at 10:16pm
basically we're all talking about layout issues which compared to everything else is easy for woppy to do.  Every game should have it's own dedicated section but of course if I had my way I'd go even further.  I'd make it so that every game section had a subscription/permissioning feature enabled so that for instance, those of us that play UT3 could only talk to those that play UT3 and everyone else can f*** off.  Think of it, right off the bat I'd ensure people like Drok don't have access to the UT3 thread so I don't have to hear his mouth about how much UT3 sucks or how dead it is.  Same thing for the likes of all the other defectors who can't seem to move the f*** on and leave us the f*** alone.  I don't go into the the thread of other games and talk incessantly about how much they aren't like UT3 or how much they suck.  so I don't see why those of us who are devoted and faithful players to this 'dead' game have to keep listening to it.  If only those that have access to the UT3 thread can talk about UT3 in that thread then that would solve many of the problems.  

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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 2:54am
Trolling (such as going into UT3 threads with the intention of saying it sucks or how much better another game is) is actually a good reason on most moderated forums for banning people. I don't say UT3 sucks though, it's just that whenever I see someone state that UT3 isn't dead - I say it is.
Games have been removed from ladder sites when the community was x times as large as this one, just because those sections are considered dead and redundant. Looking at the ladders I can't blame them.


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Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 3:01am
Originally posted by Drokun

Trolling (such as going into UT3 threads with the intention of saying it sucks or how much better another game is) is actually a good reason on most moderated forums for banning people. I don't say UT3 sucks though, it's just that whenever I see someone state that UT3 isn't dead - I say it is.
Games have been removed from ladder sites when the community was x times as large as this one, just because those sections are considered dead and redundant. Looking at the ladders I can't blame them.


so f***ing what?  who cares what anyone else is doing? There's a select group of people that enjoy this dead game with its dead community.  Why don't you comment on Halo 1 or Wolfenstein or some ****?  if you see this lame a** small group of people enjoy it why not leave it the f*** alone already?  nobody's holding a gun to your head to play it much less comment on it.  what's the point?  you can't possibly be that bored.


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 3:04am
idc they enjoy it, I enjoy it.
As the sunshine in the house I do feel obliged to respond to it though.


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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 3:04am
I don't hate UT3.  I agree with Danjel (to an extent) and would just like to see an increased emphasis on other games and not just via Other Games.  I explained it better in my PM to WOPR.  I think there's various UT3 forums that we could do without. (especially the two joke(?) forums and probably Thread of the Month to, since we never have and most likely never will use it)  My opinion is less emphasis on UT3, more on other games.  I still like to play UT3 every now and then though.  I'm more into Single Player games atm. (see LoZ: Ocarina of Time/ Majora's Mask and Kingdom Hearts 1/ Chain of Memories)  Once I finish OoT/ MM and Re: CoM, I'm going to venture further into the new Ratchet I haven't played all too much of yet.


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Posted By: Prince Big Woody
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 3:23am
I'm pretty sure there's no emphasize on the other games because it doesn't take 5 subforums to contain all 3 threads for a certain game. An increase of activity may change that.

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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 6:01am
UT3 is dead... The game is great, sometimes outstanding but its so dead its unbelievable.

My whole reference (which several of you have totally missed) was that if WOPR wanted to do something fun and that 'he' not you Drokun or Potorikan then it 'might' be a possibility to work on another site that could give him better returns (as he is out of work, this makes sense to me).

I wasn't looking for a ut3 v mw2 debate, quite honestly I don't need to debate the 100 man community to the 300,000 online at anytime community.

Anyway WOPR hope you read this and try to pick out the positive action points in here. Hope it helps.


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Posted By: PcX_Potorikan
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 9:16am
again this is mostly a layout issue as that's what would give the most change with the least amount of effort and money and also the least amount of b****ing and whining from everyone else.

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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 11:37am
Originally posted by Danjel8

UT3 is dead... The game is great, sometimes outstanding but its so dead its unbelievable.

My whole reference (which several of you have totally missed) was that if WOPR wanted to do something fun and that 'he' not you Drokun or Potorikan then it 'might' be a possibility to work on another site that could give him better returns (as he is out of work, this makes sense to me).

I wasn't looking for a ut3 v mw2 debate, quite honestly I don't need to debate the 100 man community to the 300,000 online at anytime community.

Anyway WOPR hope you read this and try to pick out the positive action points in here. Hope it helps.


But if he works on making this site centered less on UT3 and more on other games such as your CoD: MW2, would it or would it not possibly have better returns and save him money and time as well?  I honestly have no problem with a change like that.  I understand that UT3 is fading faster these days, thanks in part to MW2 and MAG. (when it releases)  Even if I don't really care for either of those "boring war games," I understand that if this site is going to continued to somewhat thrive, it needs to evolve beyond the UT3 age.  There's not a lot of point in keeping this site centered on a dying game. (You say it's dead, but I say it's dying and at an increased rate if that.)


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Posted By: COKKENBALLS
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 12:06pm
I don't mean to pimp another website, but the GOW site has a lot of custom stuff and if they don't have it, a quick note to Demon Slick or Noot would point you towards its location. If we have WOPR's ear for some changes, let's make it something new. Of course, I have no good ideas right now. :(
WOPR, I sometimes have trouble posting. I either clock for about 20 seconds or I get a 505 Server error. Would this be remedied by archiving some of the older posts?


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by COKKENBALLS

I don't mean to pimp another website, but the GOW site has a lot of custom stuff and if they don't have it, a quick note to Demon Slick or Noot would point you towards its location. If we have WOPR's ear for some changes, let's make it something new. Of course, I have no good ideas right now. :(
WOPR, I sometimes have trouble posting. I either clock for about 20 seconds or I get a 505 Server error. Would this be remedied by archiving some of the older posts?

I'll second this... I often get this problem.


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Posted By: Danjel8
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by SilverJ-17

Originally posted by Danjel8

UT3 is dead... The game is great, sometimes outstanding but its so dead its unbelievable.

My whole reference (which several of you have totally missed) was that if WOPR wanted to do something fun and that 'he' not you Drokun or Potorikan then it 'might' be a possibility to work on another site that could give him better returns (as he is out of work, this makes sense to me).

I wasn't looking for a ut3 v mw2 debate, quite honestly I don't need to debate the 100 man community to the 300,000 online at anytime community.

Anyway WOPR hope you read this and try to pick out the positive action points in here. Hope it helps.


But if he works on making this site centered less on UT3 and more on other games such as your CoD: MW2, would it or would it not possibly have better returns and save him money and time as well?  I honestly have no problem with a change like that.  I understand that UT3 is fading faster these days, thanks in part to MW2 and MAG. (when it releases)  Even if I don't really care for either of those "boring war games," I understand that if this site is going to continued to somewhat thrive, it needs to evolve beyond the UT3 age.  There's not a lot of point in keeping this site centered on a dying game. (You say it's dead, but I say it's dying and at an increased rate if that.)

You make a good point. UT3 will always have its die hard fans... you know most games will always have people that stick with it for a long time.

Its understandable that MW2 and MAG will take some players away... but I think that iAMgaming would be better off caring about gaming and not just ut3 so working on a side project and really pushing it would/could be great for the site. 

I'm not saying lets attract every d1ckhead onto here just coz they play this or that game... I just think it would be cool if we could say to someone like this Scottish guy (who us Fu K's were playing with last night), sign up to iAMgaming coz it has a really great MW2 section with tips and map layouts etc.


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Posted By: WOPR-1
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 3:01pm
Holy cow this thread actually got some activity lol!  I watched it for a few days and I didn't get much of a response so I hadn't looked at it for a while lol!  I'll go back through and read what everyone had to say and see if I can 't come up with a list and maybe discuss some of the points further so I'm sure I understand what exactly you guys are asking for.

Yeah I know what you mean about the site sometimes getting laggy or even refusing to load.  I've been watching it for a while and I'm starting to think that godaddy has issues with their SQL server.  I can certainly go and clean up some of the older threads that don't have much to offer and see if that helps but even if it did that still means they have a database issue because we should be able to have millions and millions of rows in a single table without having issues like this.

The other thing is I don't always know how often it happens for you guys so maybe I'll make a little section about forum technical issues so people can post when that happens so I get an idea of how bad this issue is....then I can be going to godaddy and complaining and if they still don;t fix it then I'll just look for a new hosting company that has better performance.


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Posted By: CKC_TRIPHOP
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by Danjel8

Originally posted by HottChick

I think you should redo the whole site. Make it more Iamgaming, not so UT3 based. Attract gamers from several different games. Keep all the best threads and diversify with new ones. Multi game mutli platform. Maybe throw in an old skool thread for those still playing old systems.

EDIT: Clans are playing more than UT3.

Amen, good idea!! We already have a positive base to start from why not get more people on here!

i agree this might be better to help our clans diversify into other games as well!!! as ckc wants to play in other games and the networking might do us good!


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Posted By: CKC_TRIPHOP
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by WOPR-1

Holy cow this thread actually got some activity lol!  I watched it for a few days and I didn't get much of a response so I hadn't looked at it for a while lol!  I'll go back through and read what everyone had to say and see if I can 't come up with a list and maybe discuss some of the points further so I'm sure I understand what exactly you guys are asking for.

Yeah I know what you mean about the site sometimes getting laggy or even refusing to load.  I've been watching it for a while and I'm starting to think that godaddy has issues with their SQL server.  I can certainly go and clean up some of the older threads that don't have much to offer and see if that helps but even if it did that still means they have a database issue because we should be able to have millions and millions of rows in a single table without having issues like this.

The other thing is I don't always know how often it happens for you guys so maybe I'll make a little section about forum technical issues so people can post when that happens so I get an idea of how bad this issue is....then I can be going to godaddy and complaining and if they still don;t fix it then I'll just look for a new hosting company that has better performance.

all in all the site seems to run well but for some reason ckc_pamkitten can't get her signature to post any longer when her code is the exact same as mine!! so we're stumped on that one. and lagging during posts or getting an error even though it posts does happen alot


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Posted By: WOPR-1
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 5:12pm
So I went back and read through this and honestly I really like the ideas here.  A lot of this stuff were things that had been in the back of my mind for a while but I never really sat down and thought about what to do about it so this was good stuff to hear and helped put a direction on the feeling.

So I am going to be doing some condensing of certain sections together (no more PC/360/ps3 separation for example) and removing some dead weight(like foot mode and vehicle sections for example).  I will also be adding sections for some of the new games like MAG and MW2.  I also liked the old school games, game reviews and debate section ideas as well I just have to think about the layout.

I don't want any of the die hard UT3 people (which I am still one of believe it or not) to think this is going to be the downward spiral of UT3 on this site because it won't be...I look at this as a combination of streamlining and making an attempt to expand our reach into other games.  The dead weight removal and consolidation needed to happen anyway and is really unrelated to adding more game sections so don't look at it like a negative thing for UT3...hell having some new blood around here may just make some people that have never played UT3 want to give it a try.

Thanks to everyone who provided feedback it was very useful.

BTW - I recently get hooked up with a  J.O.B...I don't have a start date yet, but the papers have been signed...so things are looking up! ;)


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Posted By: Cruel IntentionZ
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 5:41pm
Originally posted by WOPR-1



BTW - I recently get hooked up with a  J.O.B...I don't have a start date yet, but the papers have been signed...so things are looking up! ;)


yey! congrats WOPR! Clap Smile


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Posted By: SilverJ-17
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 6:02pm
Well, it's good to know that you finally landed yourself another job.  I hope it works out for you.

Originally posted by WOPR

I don't want any of the die hard UT3 people (which I am still one of believe it or not) to think this is going to be the downward spiral of UT3 on this site because it won't be...I look at this as a combination of streamlining and making an attempt to expand our reach into other games.  The dead weight removal and consolidation needed to happen anyway and is really unrelated to adding more game sections so don't look at it like a negative thing for UT3...hell having some new blood around here may just make some people that have never played UT3 want to give it a try.


And you do make a good point I neglected to even mention.  If we take the direct focus off of UT3, we might even end up getting some new blood for UT3 itself.  Even if I doubt we'll be seeing a second golden age for UT3 anytime soon, some new blood might be that is needed to re-energize things in UT3 and at least temporarily boost the player count.

Anyways, by combining, do you mean all making them one general discussion or three seperate general discussion sub-forums under a single UT3 main forum, like how UT3 TDM League is to UT3 on PS3?


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Posted By: warfare
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 6:14pm
Getting rid of the 360 and PC sections for UT3 and combining them with the PS3 section is a good idea...there aren't enough people playing to justify separate forums.  Epic always resisted calls to separate the platforms on their own forums and for good reason.
Oh and congrats to WOPR for finding a job!!!


Posted By: env_1ner
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 6:47pm
that is a good idea but not fair for 360 users


Posted By: warfare
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 7:10pm
Originally posted by env_1ner

that is a good idea but not fair for 360 users
How would it not be fair to the 360 users by combining ALL of the UT3 threads into one forum?  You would still be able to post whatever you want...just indicate in your thread title that it applies to the 360 crowd.  Go to Epic's official UT3 forum and you will see they don't have the platforms separated.  It's all just one big happy family.Wink


Posted By: WOPR-1
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 8:43pm
Originally posted by warfare

Originally posted by env_1ner

that is a good idea but not fair for 360 users
How would it not be fair to the 360 users by combining ALL of the UT3 threads into one forum?  You would still be able to post whatever you want...just indicate in your thread title that it applies to the 360 crowd.  Go to Epic's official UT3 forum and you will see they don't have the platforms separated.  It's all just one big happy family.Wink


Yeah it's not that I'm saying 360 users are going to have to use the PS3 forum....I'm saying there is no platform distinction anymore.  When I'm done it'll no longer a PS3 forum and a 360 forum it'll be a UT3 forum.  There should be no reason why we all can't discuss the same game. When things need to be specific (like a tourney or a call for a PUG) all you have to do is put PS3 or 360 in the title of your thread.


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Posted By: WOPR-1
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2009 at 8:46pm
Originally posted by SilverJ-17

Well, it's good to know that you finally landed yourself another job.  I hope it works out for you.

Originally posted by WOPR

I don't want any of the die hard UT3 people (which I am still one of believe it or not) to think this is going to be the downward spiral of UT3 on this site because it won't be...I look at this as a combination of streamlining and making an attempt to expand our reach into other games.  The dead weight removal and consolidation needed to happen anyway and is really unrelated to adding more game sections so don't look at it like a negative thing for UT3...hell having some new blood around here may just make some people that have never played UT3 want to give it a try.


And you do make a good point I neglected to even mention.  If we take the direct focus off of UT3, we might even end up getting some new blood for UT3 itself.  Even if I doubt we'll be seeing a second golden age for UT3 anytime soon, some new blood might be that is needed to re-energize things in UT3 and at least temporarily boost the player count.

Anyways, by combining, do you mean all making them one general discussion or three seperate general discussion sub-forums under a single UT3 main forum, like how UT3 TDM League is to UT3 on PS3?


Good question....not sure.  I guess there could be 3 separate subforums...I'll think about it and try it out when I get to work on it later on tonight.  We can always change it if we think one way is better than the other so it's not like it's set in stone.


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