Another shooting..

again, no one here is trying to ban guns, this keeps coming up with u so im making a point to reaffirm this here. As u & i both said before, its just not realistic, so no, no one heres saying to ban guns.

Originally posted by Deadaim I graduated from a small highschool.. we had 50 kids in my graduating class... yet we had an armed police officer at my school all day every day. Not that hard...

Originally posted by TX2k7 again, no one here is trying to ban guns, this keeps coming up with u so im making a point to reaffirm this here. As u & i both said before, its just not realistic, so no, no one heres saying to ban guns. now then, what im saying is the sale & distribution need to be better regulated. if cops & servicemen have to go thru psych evaluations then why not people intending to buy a gun? and it doesn't even have to be that, there is room for improvement that would help prevent situations like this in the future, even if it prevents only a few or even just 1, it could mean that 20+ kids aren't shot. i dont believe ur solution to be very realistic however, a majority of parents will not like the idea of their kids being within 20 feet of a loaded gun all day long. suppose one kid gets a hold of it & decides to 'play' with it. also, in this economy where teachers are constantly being laid off on top of the daily stresses of teaching, u really can guarantee that not 1 will snap and use that gun? its an added, unnecessary danger that at some point in time WILL cost lives, itd only be a question of when itd happen & how many lives itd cost. unless im missing something, the only downside to better regulation would be that it might be a bit more inconvenient in gettn ur guns, and maybe a few other people dont get to buy themselves a gun after the next president theyre afraid of gets elected. it would save lives, even if it was a small number, id take that anyday.

I agree with no ARs. I think TX and I agree we just both word things differently so somethings not matching up. I was stuck on thinking he wanted all guns banned at first but I believe I was wrong for thinking that.

Obama is speaking on it right now and I agree with what he is saying for anyone else watching.

I do believe in the security increase for the schools as I mentioned. But that's obviously just a strong opinion.

Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7 So don't give guns to retards. Not a gun ban issue its a retard issue. But guess what retarded or not when someone wants something they will get it. And limiting what types of guns won't matter either. Only takes one bullet to kill someone. Doesn't matter how fast you fire it. So like I said, ban and restrict all you want, but how you going to stop a criminal from breaking the law?? What needs to be done is add more guns. Arm the teachers. Raise security. Let only teachers control the locks and window shades for every classroom. Same can be done for public event centers. Instead of looking down on firearms for criminals let's look into guns for the innocent that could help defend others.

I just suggested this in another thread on another website. Liberals will be quaking in their boots at the thought of armed teachers (or at least one or two per school). But it is a somewhat reasonable solution. Train them, certify them, arm them, and put them back in the classrooms where they can protect the children from psychopaths.

In order to appease the liberals, subject the armed teachers to yearly psychological tests in order to show they are mentally stable enough to carry concealed in the classroom.

Sounds like my state of South Dakota is gonna follow in Texas footsteps and offer teachers gun classes and arm a few of them. Discussing it anyways... at least I know I'm not the only one that thinks "unrealistically "

I am definitely not saying arm every teacher, or 1/2, or 1/3, or 1/4, or 1/5. Maybe one per school. And it's not like there would be a mandate or anything forcing any teacher to carry lol. This is a free country after all, well, to an extent anyway...

In regards to the arming and certifying process, let me elaborate on that to present a fuller picture. There are lots of different levels of concealed carry throughout the nation. The US Supreme Court has affirmed an individual's right to carry, yet the Federal government has enacted no CCW legislation. They leave it up to the states to decide. In less than 170 days, IL will have CCW too

Do a google search of CCW and read up (wikipedia is 1st hit) on the type of carry laws there are. There's unrestricted (AK, AZ, VT, WY), may issue, shall issue, and that's pretty much it. The Fed needs to step the f*ck up and enact legislation to override state law, and implement a uniform federally run CCW program where everyone follows the same rules.  This national program should resemble a "shall issue" type setup. From wikipedia, here are the typical requirements of a shall issue state:

"Typical permit requirements include residency, minimum age, submitting fingerprints, passing a computerized instant background check (or a more comprehensive manual background check), attending a certified handgun/firearm safety class, passing a practical qualification demonstrating handgun proficiency, and paying a required fee."

Yes, the hardcore conservatives and the NRA would fight this proposed legislation, but it would be a good concession for both sides.

So, when I was referring to the training, certifying and arming of our teachers, I didn't mean mass boot camps across the country whupping them into Chuck Norris. I meant going through the above process (or something similar) if they so choose. It takes a level-headed person with quality training to carry competently. If I was a teacher, sign me up for a Glock 26 with an in-waistband holster.   

@ Trinity man, while I respect your opinion, it comes with a grain of salt simply because you are not a resident of this country.   

So I think if we set a fund for health care programs for families with mentally anguished children , maybe we can treat the person before they become suicidal and bat **** crazy.

i will say this... i've never carried a gun... i've lived in the inner City my whole life... people aren't as bad as their made out to be on the news! a big problem is hard drugs... they make people do things they normally wouldn't do... i'm for drug free, but i don't think weed is in the same catagory as hard drugs... i've seen good people's life change drasticaly because of hard drugs... its terrible! i'm for more help for people addicted to hard drugs... getting the cost of their help down should also be done... even law abiding people make mistakes... i don't carry a gun, because i don't ever want to make a mistake and take a life... it happens with trained police officers so it could happen with anyone... i'm not saying people don't have a right to defend their self! drugs and guns are a part of society unfortunantly... i just wish they weren't!

I was beat and I turned out great.... just sayin'

Yes my "sister in laws" 10 yr old boy told her to suck his balls right in front of me two weeks ago, she didn't do **** about it..... i remember when i told my mom shes a b**** when i was 12.... my dad hit me with a belt till i couldn't even speak or whimper anymore.... never called her a b**** again and still have more respect for my dad than anything and always will.... don't be scared to discipline your children, and i dont mean tell them NO. i mean smack them..... kids are f***ing spoiled these days and have no respect for anyone cuz they know they dont have to since there is no consequence.

You needed to be beat

My school has no armed police officers.