What does a duel map need?

Name one game besides UT3 in which we can release custom content now..

Hands down heat ray is the best duel map ever made -darkwalker. Base vials off of it as well as the shields it has all -thigh pads and makes for a perfect balance, just some boots would be nice.

Look at Faze and Deck.

Nah, those are good duel maps for PS3. Faze is my favorite map alongside Deck.
Bonesc****r is fine, but theres no reason to rely on hitscan too much.

speaking of duel... i didn't know that Johnny_Mack could beat Associate on a EU server... it was some of the sic'est duel skill that i've ever seen in any duel... maybe even the sic'est? Johnny_Mack goes ham in dm and tdm just like Bumrush too... Johnny_Bumrush :)

yea thats my point, and ggs in vctf Dagon

i think heat ray is one of the best maps, its large but yet the layout still makes for alot of action vs maps like shang.  i think the over all placement and everything is the right formula for a map.  tho boots make every map better like cheese makes everything better.  i think even the way deck and heat are set up with weapons they kind of compliment each side, you have rockets on one and flak on the other 2 shock rifles on op sides, unlike shang with one ;/~ those are well balanced out layouts and i think thats what makes good maps

Heatray is bad Imo. Heatray LE is good. Minus the jumpboots and spawning pn UD.

Originally posted by ax412 Heatray is bad Imo. Heatray LE is good. Minus the jumpboots and spawning pn UD.

well like shang SE they didnt have to do much to make the map better,,,,,tho idk y you not like the boots n heatray???  or in anymap

bum you high. Normal heatray is garbage. Only one way to belt. There must be atleast 3 different ways to grab belt for a map to be good. shang fe is good. adds balance

Im going to download a map EXACTLY the same as the one on my disc because now there is more ways to get the shield belt. Where is this book of law that there needs to be 3 different aways to grab the belt on a map? What Epic programmer or producer told you that? These "ut3 gamer made up laws" never make any sense. Nothing is wrong with heat ray. The person who made the map, wouldve put jumpboots in it if they felt like its neccessary. Play the game how it was created. Trying to perfect a map and it ends being just stupid. EVERY map is a duel map. The same map rotation is just like Deathmatch..Just like team deathmatch. adapt to the map and stop trying to make a map that'll make you better.  

Originally posted by BuMrUsH Im going to download a map EXACTLY the same as the one on my disc because now there is more ways to get the shield belt. Where is this book of law that there needs to be 3 different aways to grab the belt on a map? What Epic programmer or producer told you that? These "ut3 gamer made up laws" never make any sense. Nothing is wrong with heat ray. The person who made the map, wouldve put jumpboots in it if they felt like its neccessary. Play the game how it was created. Trying to perfect a map and it ends being just stupid. EVERY map is a duel map. The same map rotation is just like Deathmatch..Just like team deathmatch. adapt to the map and stop trying to make a map that'll make you better.   There will never be balance in duel because your fighting to get the advantage anyway..your trying to make it unbalanced for the enemy. It aint like quake where even if you stack up..that **** will drain so you have to find your enemy or all that stacking up was for nothing. here..stack up..and just turn up them headphones. your set. you can take way more hits then the blue guy. Only time its ever balanced is right when the game starts. when your both at 100   honestly darkness, all that sht is irrelevant bro. Make a map the way YOU want it to be played. Not somebody else. You put how much health, shield, all that crap..how open for hitscan or closed for sound whoring and corner spam..up to you man. You'll never get a 100% favorable map..someone is not going to like it and thats okay. But if that person is like me and could careless about maps then you got nothing to worry about it..just create.

Wrong.
Where do I start? It's like your saying maps like Coret and Deimos are excellent maps because thats how the developers created them. Quake duel is hey lets only use two weapons all game.
UT3 headphones do not guarantee victory as I've beaten many people without them.
Heatray allows somebody to camp those stairs until belt spawns, if you think that's ok, you been on the bath salts.
There is no law/rule book; however there is experience, opinion, and common sense.

Heatray is a terrible duel map. Every stock map is a terrible duel map.
EVERY SINGLE ONE.
Shang Fe is so much better than the normal shang.