NC Gay Marriage Constitutional Ban

Originally posted by YINYANG Originally posted by ax412 I have no arguement in that regard. I have previously stated idc whether they marry or not. If that's whatg your asking me. And Obama decided before re-election to declare his pro-gay as any wise politician would do. And technically gay marriage hurts those who view marriage as sacred. Please do not make assumptions , you are much smarter than that. This point however, is credible. I will agree that people who hold the vows of marriage to the highest degree will feel that the process of matrimony is violated and there may be mental anguish. However, my counter argument to that point is that it still does not affect their lives enough that they cannot go on or that their lives are in jeopardy of physical harm or harassment from a gay man or gay woman.

That works both ways, gays would not be experiencing physical harm nor would their lives be in jeopardy if they were not allowed to marry.
(Once again in America It doesn't matter to much to me. It's gonna happen eventually, but what will follow it? That is troubling)
And to call my remark about Obama an assumption is interesting. Do you believe politicians are all good men without ulterior motives?
Even good men are subtle lol.
And if my smart comment offended you, that was not the intention. If I thought you were an idiot I'd let you know. (i.e strider)

Originally posted by ax412 Originally posted by YINYANG Originally posted by ax412 I have no arguement in that regard. I have previously stated idc whether they marry or not. If that's whatg your asking me. And Obama decided before re-election to declare his pro-gay as any wise politician would do. And technically gay marriage hurts those who view marriage as sacred. Please do not make assumptions , you are much smarter than that. This point however, is credible. I will agree that people who hold the vows of marriage to the highest degree will feel that the process of matrimony is violated and there may be mental anguish. However, my counter argument to that point is that it still does not affect their lives enough that they cannot go on or that their lives are in jeopardy of physical harm or harassment from a gay man or gay woman. That works both ways, gays would not be experiencing physical harm nor would their lives be in jeopardy if they were not allowed to marry. (Once again in America It doesn't matter to much to me. It's gonna happen eventually, but what will follow it? That is troubling) And to call my remark about Obama an assumption is interesting. Do you believe politicians are all good men without ulterior motives? Even good men are subtle lol. And if my smart comment offended you, that was not the intention. If I thought you were an idiot I'd let you know. (i.e strider)

Originally posted by ax412 Lol Hanfei everything in that pic means nothing to a Christian except for the verse in Ephesians. I'm not required to live under the Law. So I'm not sure what the pic was meant for :/ Your smarter than most of us on the site lol, you know theres some differences between the New and Old Testament.

So, where does it prohibit?

Changing topics to a later post:
A few decades ago, we had similar discussion about the sanctity of interracial marriage. From a judicial and citizenry perspective, it is important to separate various religious sacraments and ceremonies of marriage from marriage as a "domestic legal union," as now cited in our state constitution.

#Unrelated: It is interesting how the poll for this thread is now even.

Originally posted by HanFei Originally posted by ax412 Lol Hanfei everything in that pic means nothing to a Christian except for the verse in Ephesians. I'm not required to live under the Law. So I'm not sure what the pic was meant for :/ Your smarter than most of us on the site lol, you know theres some differences between the New and Old Testament. So, where does it prohibit? Changing topics to a later post: A few decades ago, we had similar discussion about the sanctity of interracial marriage. From a judicial and citizenry perspective, it is important to separate various religious sacraments and ceremonies of marriage from marriage as a "domestic legal union," as now cited in our state constitution. #Unrelated: It is interesting how the poll for this thread is now even.

Uhhh I'm thinking as I type.
Acts 15
And any other New Testament book.

Originally posted by HanFei Originally posted by ax412 Originally posted by HanFei Originally posted by ax412 Lol Hanfei everything in that pic means nothing to a Christian except for the verse in Ephesians.... you know theres some differences between the New and Old Testament. So, where does it prohibit? Uhhh I'm thinking as I type. Acts 15 And any other New Testament book. Found something in Acts, but it just talks about fornication. http://bible.cc/acts/15-20.htm Some define fornication as follows: "The Greek word for ‘fornication’ (porneia) could include any sexual sin committed after the betrothal contract. …In Biblical usage, ‘fornication’ can mean any sexual congress outside monogamous marriage." Based on this interpretation, I believe sex relations, within the context of marriage, is permissible. If there are some other verses in the new testament, please let me know.

Oh you were asking about homosexuality.
http://christianteens.about.com/od/whatthebiblesaysabout/a/wbsaHomosexual.htm

I like that article.

The about article, can almost make one wrestle with their opinions. 

Originally posted by HanFei Originally posted by ax412 Lol Hanfei everything in that pic means nothing to a Christian except for the verse in Ephesians. I'm not required to live under the Law. So I'm not sure what the pic was meant for :/ Your smarter than most of us on the site lol, you know theres some differences between the New and Old Testament. So, where does it prohibit? Changing topics to a later post: A few decades ago, we had similar discussion about the sanctity of interracial marriage. From a judicial and citizenry perspective, it is important to separate various religious sacraments and ceremonies of marriage from marriage as a "domestic legal union," as now cited in our state constitution. #Unrelated: It is interesting how the poll for this thread is now even.

Ok so obviously the "gay is bad" argument is clearly based on religious beliefs so if this was a court of law and phantaci was waiting to be chosen for the jury he would get dropped like a rock but CS would get chosen because at least he thinks gay oral sex is ok and would rather homosexuals blend in so they can infiltrate and eventually be elected president.

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Didn't want to create a new thread, but want to keep you all updated.

According to the New York Times, all 32 ballot measures on same sex marriage have been won by opponents. On November 6th, Washington can change that with Referendum 74. Showing support for same sex marriage, Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, and his wife, MacKenzie Bezos, donated $2.5 million dollars. Bill Gates and Steven A. Ballmer of Microsoft each gave $100,000.

Ms. Cast, who use to work at Amazon, wrote, “I want to have the right to marry the love of my life and to let my children and grandchildren know their family is honored like a ‘real’ family.... We need help from straight people. To be very frank, we need help from wealthy straight people who care about us and who want to help us win.” She asked for 100-200k.

Jeff replied, “This is right for so many reasons. We’re in for $2.5 million."

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/27/amazons-founder-pledges-2-5-million-in-support-of-same-sex-marriage/?hp