Science v Religion

Ok let me make my personal opinion before I start

I am not religious although I am well eduacted in the matter at hand and I do respect people who believe in god coz I think some people feel the need to have a faith in something and in most cases christ is that faith which I understand so fair play to you if that is the case. I actually believe that Jesus exsisted and use to preach about a one god and he was put to death but him been resurected LOL to that, people have been put to death in the past for surving a stab wound and then it was said that they were in leaugue with satan but apparently jesus did the same thing and its not satan worship?? its a great story but a story it remains to me and nothing else.

I believe more in science like the illuminati did, there are some things lthat just not possible and god is one of them, there has been billions and billions of murder and death in his name and most of high ranking religious people are corrupted by power and use god as an exsuse. I'm not saying that about all modern christians, I'm sure some people like my grandad love god and desire nothing more than his comfort.

without science this world would still be in the stone age and without god the a good 50% of every person to have ever stepped foot on this planet could have kept their lives instead of been put to death or killed in gods name. Science has never hurt or harmed anyone just simply made the world better and you cant really argue with it either because it is a factual thing.

This thread id not me bashing on god at all, I found it interesting. I do not fear to voice my opinion on this matter on a forum or to someone face.

the bible is good for teaching people lessons in a story sort of way, you can take pearts of your life and maybe the bible can give you an answer to your problems but at the end of the day it is just a book.

I have so many opinions and some you could relate to I'm sure but some you might think I'm a di.ck but thats fine by me.

voice your opinion or dont? agree with me or bash on me. it all part of a good debate about an interesting subject IMO

peace

First of all, I don't believe in god. I respect people who do, as long as they don't go around telling others to do it. (like for example Phant is totally cool for me, he does believe in god and I know he dedicates a rather big part of his life to god and religion, but he doesn't nor would he preach it to me, except maybe in this kind of thread but that would be the point)

lol dagon nobody would get saved from reading a post on a gaming forum or from playing ut3. maybe if they read the post out loud. maybe then maybe. But in order to believe the Gospel you have to hear it. I could maybe demonstrate though.

Maybe not the AK47, yeah. But definately the nuclear bomb.

Originally posted by ColosussSlayer hmmm I dont know if I would blame science for vreating the AK-47 if you catch my drift, I get where your coming from but just feel that stuff like that is the fault of man, not people working hard to cure disease and stuff like that.

its not really fair to say science isnt to blame for the deaths of millions but religion is. science gave us the ability to kill more people faster, science also gave us the ability to save lives faster. on the other hand religion gave people a reason to kill and conquer but also gave people the courage and hope to persevere thru trying times.

the fault lies in humanity itself, not religion or science. the minds of men are easily corrupted by greed, power or hate, but to blame it on anything but ourselves is just an excuse to say 'its not our fault'

whether provided by a divine power or the minds of men, science and religion have the ability to inspire humanity to unbelievable heights but first we need to overcome the corruption in our nature

Healthy respect doesn't happen on this forum. It's a shame.

Originally posted by TX2k7 Originally posted by ColosussSlayer hmmm I dont know if I would blame science for vreating the AK-47 if you catch my drift, I get where your coming from but just feel that stuff like that is the fault of man, not people working hard to cure disease and stuff like that. its not really fair to say science isnt to blame for the deaths of millions but religion is. science gave us the ability to kill more people faster, science also gave us the ability to save lives faster. on the other hand religion gave people a reason to kill and conquer but also gave people the courage and hope to persevere thru trying times. the fault lies in humanity itself, not religion or science. the minds of men are easily corrupted by greed, power or hate, but to blame it on anything but ourselves is just an excuse to say 'its not our fault' whether provided by a divine power or the minds of men, science and religion have the ability to inspire humanity to unbelievable heights but first we need to overcome the corruption in our nature

I was just saying that an AK47 doesn't need nearly as deep scientific research and knowledge as a nuclear bomb. ;D

Originally posted by ax412 lol dagon nobody would get saved from reading a post on a gaming forum or from playing ut3. maybe if they read the post out loud. maybe then maybe. But in order to believe the Gospel you have to hear it. I could maybe demonstrate though.

How does that hold true?  If you think about a sin, it's a sin...so shouldn't this work the same way!?

Originally posted by SP61gTSupra Originally posted by ax412 lol dagon nobody would get saved from reading a post on a gaming forum or from playing ut3. maybe if they read the post out loud. maybe then maybe. But in order to believe the Gospel you have to hear it. I could maybe demonstrate though. How does that hold true?  If you think about a sin, it's a sin...so shouldn't this work the same way!?

christianity is a personal experience so if you want evidence you would have to experience it.

anyhow I'm not sure whats the question your asking.

When Jesus was talking, he wasn't talking about temptation.

Jesus was saying if you see a woman and in your mind you go about what you would do to her and how you can't wait to get next to her, that is sin. Because if you could do her you would.

But someone else could see a woman who looks nice and maybe a thought comes but they reject it. That would be resisting temptation. (James 1:12)

This is a blanket statement but the people who claim to know so much about Followers of the Way... only know about Catholicism :(

NEWS FLASH
catholicism isn't true "christianity", theres so much paganism and idolatry/borderline idolatry its not even funny.

If you were raised around catholics or came from a catholic background, thats not the genuine Gospel sorry to say.

Originally posted by ax412 Originally posted by SP61gTSupra Originally posted by ax412 lol dagon nobody would get saved from reading a post on a gaming forum or from playing ut3. maybe if they read the post out loud. maybe then maybe. But in order to believe the Gospel you have to hear it. I could maybe demonstrate though. How does that hold true?  If you think about a sin, it's a sin...so shouldn't this work the same way!? christianity is a personal experience so if you want evidence you would have to experience it. anyhow I'm not sure whats the question your asking. When Jesus was talking, he wasn't talking about temptation. Jesus was saying if you see a woman and in your mind you go about what you would do to her and how you can't wait to get next to her, that is sin. Because if you could do her you would. But someone else could see a woman who looks nice and maybe a thought comes but they reject it. That would be resisting temptation. (James 1:12) This is a blanket statement but the people who claim to know so much about Followers of the Way... only know about Catholicism :( NEWS FLASH catholicism isn't true "christianity", theres so much paganism and idolatry/borderline idolatry its not even funny. If you were raised around catholics or came from a catholic background, thats not the genuine Gospel sorry to say.

There's no point arguing with the science people, they will continue to go on on and on about this science thing like they did in the last 100 science religion threads. "What a fool believes no wise man can reason"

Jesus Christ had some information to share with all mankind. He preached of love not hate. Forgivness not intollerance. Equality not eliteism. His words were devine. What a trulely great man he must have been. Yet he loved everyone even his executioners. Father forgive them for they know not what they do, has to be the greatest words ever spoken concidering the circomstances. He had been brutaly tortured and nailed to a cross to die, and thats what he had to say? Thats love of man!

Originally posted by Iuckshot There's no point arguing with the religion people, they will continue to go on on and on about this religion thing like they did in the last 100 science religion threads. "What a fool believes no wise man can reason" whee internet argument

Try again