| | | | | |  

Forum Home Forum Home > Off Topic Forums > Fists of Fury
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Calendar   Register Register  Login Login

Religion and Politics

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 38>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
ColossusSlayer View Drop Down
Team Devil
Team Devil
Avatar

Joined: 27 Feb 2009
Location: Great Britain
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2352
Post Options Post Options   Quote ColossusSlayer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Religion and Politics
    Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 9:21am
THIS IS MY OPINION AND I'M SAYING IT IN THE MOST POLITE WAY POSSIBLE:

I believe there was a man called Jesus or something along those lines and he preached about a one God and blah blah blah and he got some followers that completely believed him and it just stuck through out the ages. Its like if I said to you right now "I am a God and I can grant you eternal life", and everyone believed me 100% and 1000's of years after I died people would still say there was a God called Edward that existed and he could grant eternal life.

My point is that all the resurrection, turning water into wine, feeding 1000 people with 1 loaf of bread is all a great STORY but its nothing more. The bible is great book for learning life lessons and I believe that's why it was created and the best thing about religion is that it gives people faith and alot of people the will to live and be the best they can be but as for GOD being real well I think that's all BS.

people that are religious good for them I don't blame them for having faith in something even if it is a made up story but I truly believe that not of it is true but hey it doesn't matter what I think at all like I said I respect people who are religious so no skin of my teeth.

btw I got an A* in R.E at school in my GCSE's :)
Back to Top
-DaGoN- View Drop Down
Godlike Member
Godlike Member
Avatar
I've got a bucket on me head!!!

Joined: 08 Apr 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1683
Post Options Post Options   Quote -DaGoN- Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 9:08am
Originally posted by Darkn3ss is QnL

Originally posted by ax412

What do you guys think of the notion of Europe becoming a predominately Islamic continent in the next few decades.
Lolwut?
Why did that pop into your head?
 
It dont think that will happen. Too many differences in habits, believes and lifestyle.
 
Boy, you don't live in Germany, you wouldn't know.
B-B-BucKetHe4D !
Back to Top
Darkn3ss View Drop Down
Team Devil
Team Devil
Avatar

Joined: 02 Apr 2011
Location: Holland
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2933
Post Options Post Options   Quote Darkn3ss Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 5:29am
Originally posted by ax412

What do you guys think of the notion of Europe becoming a predominately Islamic continent in the next few decades.
Lolwut?
Why did that pop into your head?
 
It dont think that will happen. Too many differences in habits, believes and lifestyle.
 
PC Specs:

Intel i5-4960K 3.4GHz
Crucial Sport 16GB 1866 RAM
GeForce GTX970 4GB VRAM
Antec 1100 Tower Case
NZXT Sleeved Blue LED Kit 1M
2x 2TB Seagate HDD
2x 256GB Samsung SSD
Back to Top
ax412 View Drop Down
Team iAM
Team iAM
Avatar
Duel Champ

Joined: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Cali
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4833
Post Options Post Options   Quote ax412 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 3:59am
What do you guys think of the notion of Europe becoming a predominately Islamic continent in the next few decades.
Back to Top
SIZZLE View Drop Down
Team oOPS
Team oOPS

I'm your huckle berry

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1352
Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 2:04pm
The known recovery fund recipients maybe? What about the unknown recipients?

A Youtube education is the way to go.. skip all the college drama and save 300,000 :)

Putting all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea. Even when it comes to listening and believing a certain party or an individual. Agenda's and elections tend to be put over all else with politicians from either party.

sHoCkD_Yo_aSs is a novice bot
Back to Top
HanFei View Drop Down
Team KmA
Team KmA
Avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 798
Post Options Post Options   Quote HanFei Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 12:33am
Here is a list of recovery fund recipients:
http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/TextViewProjSummary.aspx?data=recipientAwardsList&RenderData=ALL&AwardType=G

Kahn is a former investment banker turned modern teacher. His nonprofit is changing educational paradigms.

Neither party wants to balance the budget b/c it is not politically desirable. While less taxes and balanced budgets test will in focus groups, when asked specifically which programs to cut, people want to keep the vast majority. This is why we always hear abstractions and talks of budgets not the loss of jobs and services such cuts cause.
Back to Top
SIZZLE View Drop Down
Team oOPS
Team oOPS

I'm your huckle berry

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1352
Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2011 at 11:25am
Originally posted by HanFei

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Bush was almost as bad as Obama when it comes to spending.Thats not accurate.. Cutting taxes is a tax cut! The budget is the total that will be spent each year! A surplus or deficit is the result of spending! There's plenty of tax money! There's just too much spending! How many democrats also voted for the wars? Our economy grew last quarter? < Thats BULLSH1T!!! :) Mild inflation discourages hoarding? sounds like something the left would believe. lol
After the 09 depression, we've experienced positive growth, despite the rhetoric of pundants and candidates. http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls Deflation encourages hoarding because hoarding cash will increase value in time. With slight inflation, there is incentive to convert cash into assists with growth instead of loss. Kahn Accademy for lectures. http://www.khanacademy.org/


rhetoric? lmfao The far *LEFT PROGRESSIVES* = rhetoric, plot'n, sceaming, lie'n, corrupting, attacking. Their a bunch of anti American pissants that wish they were 800 pound gorilla's :) Khan Accademy must be huge Jimmy Carter fans. Jimmy Carter was *The King of Inflation*.

@TX Dam the Ghost Busters had it right all along

Pie Charts are very simple to use, but there worthless if the info on them is inaccurate! Funny thing is that no one can even give an exact amount on how much the bailout out cost us? how much the stimulous cost us? Where all the money went?

What exactly is the Obama administration's plan on decreasing spending, balancing the budget, improving the economy, lowering the debt? He has already made a lot of money disapear so maybe he'd make a better magician then president?
sHoCkD_Yo_aSs is a novice bot
Back to Top
TX2k7 View Drop Down
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Avatar
Requiescat In Pace

Joined: 08 Nov 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2340
Post Options Post Options   Quote TX2k7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2011 at 4:12am
Originally posted by Syzygy

Obama is a radically far left puppet! Our government is way too big! Our economy is screwed up! Our currency is becoming worthless! Inflation is about to hit hard! We are in 3 wars that we can't afford! Banks aren't loaning money! Health care costs are very high! Energy prices are climbing!

with all the exclamations n excitement here, i couldn't help thinkn of

LOL sry for the interuption
Back to Top
HanFei View Drop Down
Team KmA
Team KmA
Avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 798
Post Options Post Options   Quote HanFei Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2011 at 12:48am
Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Bush was almost as bad as Obama when it comes to spending.Thats not accurate.. Cutting taxes is a tax cut! The budget is the total that will be spent each year! A surplus or deficit is the result of spending! There's plenty of tax money! There's just too much spending! How many democrats also voted for the wars? Our economy grew last quarter? < Thats BULLSH1T!!! :) Mild inflation discourages hoarding? sounds like something the left would believe. lol

After the 09 depression, we've experienced positive growth, despite the rhetoric of pundants and candidates.
http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

Deflation encourages hoarding because hoarding cash will increase value in time. With slight inflation, there is incentive to convert cash into assists with growth instead of loss. Kahn Accademy for lectures. http://www.khanacademy.org/
Back to Top
SIZZLE View Drop Down
Team oOPS
Team oOPS

I'm your huckle berry

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1352
Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 7:25pm
Bush was almost as bad as Obama when it comes to spending.Thats not accurate.. Cutting taxes is a tax cut! The budget is the total that will be spent each year! A surplus or deficit is the result of spending! There's plenty of tax money! There's just too much spending!
How many democrats also voted for the wars? Our economy grew last quarter? < Thats BULLSH1T!!! :)
Mild inflation discourages hoarding? sounds like something the left would believe. lol
sHoCkD_Yo_aSs is a novice bot
Back to Top
HanFei View Drop Down
Team KmA
Team KmA
Avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 798
Post Options Post Options   Quote HanFei Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2011 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

12/2008? old chart? Do you know who the Intergovernment is? China is our biggest foreign lender by far.

Returning the tax rate to pre bush tax cuts would be raising taxes! Your view would be like me saying Bush didn't cut taxes he just returned them to an earlier rate. Bush cut/lowered taxes. When taxes go up its raising taxes.. When taxes go down its cutting/lowering taxes.

Obama is a radically far left puppet! Our government is way too big! Our economy is screwed up! Our currency is becoming worthless! Inflation is about to hit hard! We are in 3 wars that we can't afford! Banks aren't loaning money! Health care costs are very high! Energy prices are climbing! I could go on, but i'm sure you get the picture. :)

Here is a projection for 2011 with practically identical percentages. Again, Japan's share is quite comparable to that of China's. China is not the lead holder by far.


Cutting taxes at the time of a small budget surplus caused a budget deficit. Because of deficit funding, a tax cut at the time of a budget deficit is a deferment of taxes. To truely reduce taxes, we must reduce spending and taxes at the same time, to not do so is to play accounting games and rhetoric.

Let us remember which party started these wars. Our economy grew last quarter. Constant, mild inflation discourages hoarding, unlike no inflation or deflation. South Korea uses 1,000 Won notes; yet their % GDP grow was larger than ours. This is all that matters. Energy is still widely avaliable, even as we consume ~25% of the worlds energy....
Back to Top
SIZZLE View Drop Down
Team oOPS
Team oOPS

I'm your huckle berry

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1352
Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2011 at 1:28am
12/2008? old chart? Do you know who the Intergovernment is? China is our biggest foreign lender by far.

Returning the tax rate to pre bush tax cuts would be raising taxes! Your view would be like me saying Bush didn't cut taxes he just returned them to an earlier rate. Bush cut/lowered taxes. When taxes go up its raising taxes.. When taxes go down its cutting/lowering taxes.

Obama is a radically far left puppet! Our government is way too big! Our economy is screwed up! Our currency is becoming worthless! Inflation is about to hit hard! We are in 3 wars that we can't afford! Banks aren't loaning money! Health care costs are very high! Energy prices are climbing! I could go on, but i'm sure you get the picture. :)



                     
sHoCkD_Yo_aSs is a novice bot
Back to Top
HanFei View Drop Down
Team KmA
Team KmA
Avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 798
Post Options Post Options   Quote HanFei Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 11:02pm
Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

2 questions

1 How much do we really owe China? 2 What is the interest on that debt?

No country has ever been 14 to 16 trillion dollars in debt! Its new territory. Thats a huge amount of money.

The democrats still want to keep raising the debt ceiling? We're so fk'd :)

Both parties deficit finance. The Tax cuts in 01, at a time of brief budget surplus are still lingering throughout these years of deficits. Unfortunately, any attempt to let these taxes expire and return Taxes to their previous level is seen as a tax increase by the public, which has a short memory.

Let us also frame Debt as a % of GDP for a more accurate representation of our debt:earnings. Currently we take in 57 cents for every dollar spent.
Back to Top
HanFei View Drop Down
Team KmA
Team KmA
Avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 798
Post Options Post Options   Quote HanFei Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 10:55pm
Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

2 questions

1 How much do we really owe China? 2 What is the interest on that debt?

No country has ever been 14 to 16 trillion dollars in debt! Its new territory. Thats a huge amount of money.

The democrats still want to keep raising the debt ceiling? We're so fk'd :)

Japan is a comparable debt holder. Yet, they are not the buzz word they were in the 80's.
Back to Top
SIZZLE View Drop Down
Team oOPS
Team oOPS

I'm your huckle berry

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1352
Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 8:41pm
2 questions

1 How much do we really owe China? 2 What is the interest on that debt?

No country has ever been 14 to 16 trillion dollars in debt! Its new territory. Thats a huge amount of money.

The democrats still want to keep raising the debt ceiling? We're so fk'd :)
sHoCkD_Yo_aSs is a novice bot
Back to Top
Heavenly_tRiNiTy View Drop Down
Team Deep
Team Deep
Avatar
TEA TIME!!!

Joined: 31 Jan 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2101
Post Options Post Options   Quote Heavenly_tRiNiTy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 4:20pm
Syz is right about one thing tho and thats real wealth lies not with our nation's governments but with private organisations. But im sure there's an economic equation or theory that states that, in capitalist countries, borrowing money is essential to wealth creation. But our nations government need to borrow money too so its catch 22 unless they tax us all to the max and beyond! BTW in UK 72% of the cost of petrol is levied by our great government. It is currently £1.34 per litre which means that the gulf states receive approx 25% of the price of fuel here. How the fvck can this government rip us off. 
Cos I'm Wonderman...I'll take that knife and shove it up your a$$!
Back to Top
F.u.k-shaker View Drop Down
Godlike Member
Godlike Member

raptor pilot

Joined: 22 Sep 2009
Location: Norge
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1160
Post Options Post Options   Quote F.u.k-shaker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 4:18pm
Hmmm! Norway do borrow money... But that is a political agenda. Not because we need to!
Hmmm, the inflation that hit the dollar after USA loaned some billins to invade Iraq DID make a difference on the people withn lowest income in the states. And it also divided the poulation even more than before...
We here in Norway see the beginning also... The richest is getting richer.
To put simply...: Try to invest 1000 dollar short term! What will you gain?
Do the same with a million! What will you gain?
Bank of America=Bank of England. More or less.
This was as simply i could put it;-)
Back to Top
TuNA FISh View Drop Down
Team QnL
Team QnL
Avatar
QnL Captain

Joined: 02 Jul 2009
Location: Bham, Alabama
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2994
Post Options Post Options   Quote TuNA FISh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 2:42pm
You're right, I'm sure there are some third world countries that don't borrow money.. You know what I meant and my point is that countries borrowing money happens all the time. our economy dwarfs everyone else's so china wouldn't lend us money if they knew they wouldn't make a profit in the ling run
The sun was high and so was I
- Best Coast

psn: HardhatTuna
XBL: Tuna is QnL

Back to Top
-DaGoN- View Drop Down
Godlike Member
Godlike Member
Avatar
I've got a bucket on me head!!!

Joined: 08 Apr 2010
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1683
Post Options Post Options   Quote -DaGoN- Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 1:15pm
Not every country. And even if, would that make it any better ?
B-B-BucKetHe4D !
Back to Top
TuNA FISh View Drop Down
Team QnL
Team QnL
Avatar
QnL Captain

Joined: 02 Jul 2009
Location: Bham, Alabama
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2994
Post Options Post Options   Quote TuNA FISh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 11:33am
Every country borrows money
The sun was high and so was I
- Best Coast

psn: HardhatTuna
XBL: Tuna is QnL

Back to Top
SIZZLE View Drop Down
Team oOPS
Team oOPS

I'm your huckle berry

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1352
Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2011 at 12:09am
This country is on borrowed money therefore its on borrowed time!



sHoCkD_Yo_aSs is a novice bot
Back to Top
HanFei View Drop Down
Team KmA
Team KmA
Avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 798
Post Options Post Options   Quote HanFei Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 7:46pm
Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Originally posted by HanFei

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Low wages in China is a big plus for the Country overall.. As wages grow so will their economy.. While wages are low building and improving their infrastructure will be very affordable.. business will thrive due to low wages.. Low wages is the reason their growth will last for so long.. It will take a long time for their wages to reach ours, if they ever do? Which means they will continue a steady growth and not max out as quick as we did. Its the worth of the currency thats important Tuna. Our dollar is worth 4 cents compared to its worth in 1920.

Let us remember that real growth equals growth minus inflation. Real growth is all that matters not inflation.

~1000 Korean Won = 1 USD. This past year they saw ~11 percent growth on par with India and China.


Inflation always matters! Inflation and debt can destroy a country in a very short period of time! devaluing currency is a form of inflation.. weather they print more money or add imaginary money digitally it devalues the dollar just the same.

Watch and see if they don't try to get the reserve transferred to China's central bank in the near future.

So, if the value of the dollar has diminished so much in the last century, then why hasn't this "destroyed our country?"
Back to Top
SIZZLE View Drop Down
Team oOPS
Team oOPS

I'm your huckle berry

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1352
Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 2:06pm
Tim Pawlenty for President.
sHoCkD_Yo_aSs is a novice bot
Back to Top
TuNA FISh View Drop Down
Team QnL
Team QnL
Avatar
QnL Captain

Joined: 02 Jul 2009
Location: Bham, Alabama
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2994
Post Options Post Options   Quote TuNA FISh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 9:00am
China is number one in the world when it comes to solar energy. We're getting left in the dust when it comes to alternate energy.
The sun was high and so was I
- Best Coast

psn: HardhatTuna
XBL: Tuna is QnL

Back to Top
SIZZLE View Drop Down
Team oOPS
Team oOPS

I'm your huckle berry

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1352
Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 11:54pm
Originally posted by HanFei

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Low wages in China is a big plus for the Country overall.. As wages grow so will their economy.. While wages are low building and improving their infrastructure will be very affordable.. business will thrive due to low wages.. Low wages is the reason their growth will last for so long.. It will take a long time for their wages to reach ours, if they ever do? Which means they will continue a steady growth and not max out as quick as we did. Its the worth of the currency thats important Tuna. Our dollar is worth 4 cents compared to its worth in 1920.

Let us remember that real growth equals growth minus inflation. Real growth is all that matters not inflation.

~1000 Korean Won = 1 USD. This past year they saw ~11 percent growth on par with India and China.


Inflation always matters! Inflation and debt can destroy a country in a very short period of time! devaluing currency is a form of inflation.. weather they print more money or add imaginary money digitally it devalues the dollar just the same.

Watch and see if they don't try to get the reserve transferred to China's central bank in the near future.
sHoCkD_Yo_aSs is a novice bot
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 38>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.72
Copyright ©2001-2011 Web Wiz