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misfit44
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Topic: Greatest Heavyweight Boxer Ever? Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:45pm |
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mike tyson was probability the best there was.
but everyone my dad's and grand father's age like Jack dempsey because he use 2 box where i'm from here is a mural on the building here where he used 2 fight at. |
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Supreme_Venom
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 May 2010 at 6:07am | ||
Yah and plus, I have never seen any other fighter being able to take that many hits and keep going and still have strenght and agility to knock his opponent out. The fights vs. George Foreman and Joe Frazier are prime examples of that. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 May 2010 at 9:39pm | ||
You guys have to rethink.
Muhammad Ali played as a very smart fighter. He wore out the fighters he was against, and then knocked them out. I do think Muhammad Ali vs. Mike Tyson would be the fight for the ages, though. |
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TuNA FISh
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2010 at 4:54pm | ||
i watched about 40 minutes of Ali a few months ago and hated it.. i'll look into it again though
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Supreme_Venom
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2010 at 4:47pm | ||
Just watch Ali movie and When We Were Kings, everything will become clear to you ;)
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OneMan1Army
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2010 at 3:35pm | ||
What!!! No Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis and Riddi c k Bowe!? These three boxers deserve to be in that poll.
As for the best Heavyweight fighter of all-time, it hard to choose. Muhammad Ali had speed & ring smart. He also fought very competitive foes in his career (Sonny Liston, Ken Norton, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, etc). Rocky Marciano was the first Heavyweight fighter ever to go 49 -0, yet his opponents wasn't a real challenge. Mike Tyson was the youngest Heavyweight fighter to earn a title belt at age 20 due to knocking his opponents out in round 1 - 4. His speed, agility & power was like no other. If you look at his KO's percentage, he have the best one (44 out of 50 KO's). Also, he had good opponents (the only one I can think of is Holyfield). Joe Louis was is the only fighter (so far) to defend 25 title fights. The man work very hard and took boxing real serious. From my opinion, it's either Mike Tyson or Joe Louis. Im sorry but Muhammad Ali isn't the Greatest of All Time. |
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TuNA FISh
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2010 at 3:33pm | ||
lol Ali is overrated... Tyson would have knocked him out quick. you can't compare boxers who boxed over 40 years ago to Tyson... plus, i don't see any boxers being as "hungry" as Tyson.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2010 at 7:14am | ||
Lol...tnx mate, I'm very political but no radical in real life 2. I am a fan of Tyson too, no denying Iron Mike's pure boxing talents. Cus D'amato (chk spelling) did a lot for him and when he died Tyson couldn't be controlled BUT he was naive and many people manipulated him. He was fearless and had a raw aggression that other fighters could smell. Tyson I suspect would have fought for nothing but glory and violence. The career fighters he met were in it for money mainly. If you watch Ali's fights and analyse his career post 60s u see hungry men like Tyson - generally hard cases. Below these guys were seasoned vets like Ernie Shavers, a young Larry Holmes and Leon Spinks. Tyson wouldnt have been out of his depth with them but would he beat Holmes or Foreman? I doubt it. great but limited, easily frustrated, ill-disciplined thats Tyson. Ali? say what u like but he was smart, courageous, adaptable and immensely talented - he always had a plan. Im glad 2 see so many boxing fans here tho. You should do Manny vs Mayweather next! Or greatest middle weight of all - but dont ask me
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Supreme_Venom
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2010 at 6:43am | ||
You should do politics or something.. You would get my vote!
And yah about that interview.. they were just messing around.. they were both being modest.
I have to say it's a shame tho about tyson, because I'm a big fan of him as well. After his trainer died, things went bad for him, you could clearly see the lust, the "eye of the tiger" if you will, drained from him.
If you watch Ali the movie or When We Were Kings, you understand why Ali is the greatest.
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Heavenly_tRiNiTy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 May 2010 at 9:23pm | ||
ppl like Berbick, Spinks and Tyrell Biggs? They hardly measure up to Foreman, Frazier and Holmes. Tyson was a sweet fighter dont get me wrong. Great hand speed and agility, he had a tight defence that allowed him to get up close and was able to deliver brutal hooks and upper cuts with great precision. He was fearless, hit him and he grinned a real psycho, old skool style dress and mentality that seem to beat opponents before he threw a punch - he was 'truly awesome'. But he fought in an era when the division was in decline. Ali might have said that about Tyson but believe me if they ever met he would have said the opposite. His words would have beaten Tyson, who wasn't equipped to handle a smart boxer. His talent, style and adaptability in the ring (something Tyson never had, he was well drilled) makes him a clear winner imo. Come on, most ppl only remember James Buster Douglas and Holyfield as fighters on Tysons record. A fight with a heavyweight of true quality, like Ridd*** Bowe would have stretched him.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 May 2010 at 3:42pm | ||
You should try em dipped in Sweet & Sour sauce.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 May 2010 at 3:40pm | ||
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Do_Or_Die_420
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 May 2010 at 2:53pm | ||
Tyson in his prime would Destroy just about anybody you put infront of him..
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TuNA FISh
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 May 2010 at 1:46pm | ||
Lennox Lewis was a bad ass too. he's not on the poll though :( |
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TuNA FISh
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 May 2010 at 1:44pm | ||
it's funny that you say that 30-50 years ago there were way better boxers than mike tyson. there is an interview were Ali says that Mike Tyson was the greatest boxer who ever lived. he even said he was scared of him lol. you can watch it on YOUTUBE
while you're at it, watch the dozens of matches were tyson knocked the sh it out of the best boxers in the world when he was only 19-20 years old. that's the tyson i'm talking about. not the tyson who was washed up and trying to get back in the game when he bit that guys ear.
Ali was good, but he is definitely not the greatest boxer who ever lived. top ten probably, maybe even top 5.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 May 2010 at 1:34pm | ||
Lol...I think i dooo! *<3 *
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 2010 at 11:21pm | ||
tyson cause he'll bite ur F*CKN ear off thats pimp & that tiny voice
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Supreme_Venom
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2010 at 9:01am | ||
and who keeps voting for rocky balboa, that was a joke, don't actually vote on it xD
I might as well put Hulk Hogan in there then.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2010 at 9:00am | ||
omg! you understand me <3
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2010 at 7:14am | ||
Tuna u cannot b serious. Ali was the best imo but its difficult to judge because of the era and rules. Remember tho Ali fought and beat bigger, stronger guys just like iron mike. Cept in Ali's time the top 10 was meaningful, most of the boxers at the time have made it into Boxing's Hall of Fame. And considering that there were only 2 organisations, less weight classifications, less science/tech about training and diet and longer bouts (15 rounds) I would say Ali's achievements outweigh those of Tyson's. Ali, in his prime, always found a way. Actually like Venom said his prime years were spent in suspension due to 'tax evasion' or draught dodging. tyson was a great if limited fighter.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 2010 at 8:45pm | ||
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2010 at 3:09pm | ||
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2010 at 2:49pm | ||
If Manny Pacquiao were 2 move up to Heavyweight for whatever reason, he would so dominate the competition!! lmao.
Dude is a fu cking beast tho.
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TuNA FISh
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2010 at 2:35pm | ||
Ali was good, but it was a completely different time. i think Tyson would have beat the sh!t out of Ali if they both fought each other in their prime. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2010 at 1:44pm | ||
It's hard to say... Because Ali missed 3 precious years of his prime because his boxing license was suspended until the court had reached an decision for him declining the military service in that time..
Ali has beaten the greatest names out there, sonny liston, george foreman, joe frazier etc. etc.
Even tho I love Mike Tyson, I really think Ali could beat anyone he wanted to even if both fighters would face each other in their prime. |
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