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    Posted: 16 Mar 2012 at 2:14pm
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Pugs we generally try new things out. Ravisher secondary is supposedly buffed, we'll try that out in a pug. Rocket's buffed? We'll test that out in a pug. 

No sense in testing in pubs because those are generally not very good players. So you may think the Ravager is a beast because you ****d a pub, but then you get in a pug and realize that good players can dodge it so easily it's not worth using. I test things against competent players. That way if it does work or is efficient I know it's against players that I would meet in a match. Pub stomping is also no fun for me. I get no enjoyment going 30-0 in a TDM in MM. I'm not challenging myself. Pugs are where the base of my fun comes from in games. Pickup games with quality opponents that challenge me to an extent. I love the competition. 

Scrims are to test strats, flag runs, setups, etc. Here is where we'll try maybe Sebstinct running flag instead of Shin, or Hulk hosting instead of Shin hosting, etc. These are practices for real matches and to get everything down to a science so when it comes match time we know exactly what to do, the routes to take, etc. 

Matches are the real deal. 

That's how Type Z practices and always has and it has faired us quite well in all honesty. 
wtf are you talking about???  you play against friends or bots if you want to "try" things out.  or just play in pubs to mess around, your basicly saying there are no real matchs.
if you "love" competition you would be saying that you are competitive in "PUGS" an "SCRIMS".
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so before you said you treated pubs and pugs the samne.. and now your saying you use pugs for practice for your matches.... which is what pengwin said beforehand and you was going against him? lol...
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Pugs we generally try new things out. Ravisher secondary is supposedly buffed, we'll try that out in a pug. Rocket's buffed? We'll test that out in a pug. 

No sense in testing in pubs because those are generally not very good players. So you may think the Ravager is a beast because you ****d a pub, but then you get in a pug and realize that good players can dodge it so easily it's not worth using. I test things against competent players. That way if it does work or is efficient I know it's against players that I would meet in a match. Pub stomping is also no fun for me. I get no enjoyment going 30-0 in a TDM in MM. I'm not challenging myself. Pugs are where the base of my fun comes from in games. Pickup games with quality opponents that challenge me to an extent. I love the competition. 

Scrims are to test strats, flag runs, setups, etc. Here is where we'll try maybe Sebstinct running flag instead of Shin, or Hulk hosting instead of Shin hosting, etc. These are practices for real matches and to get everything down to a science so when it comes match time we know exactly what to do, the routes to take, etc. 

Matches are the real deal. 

That's how Type Z practices and always has and it has faired us quite well in all honesty. 
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players here dont take pugs very seriously but the argument here is that pubs are from pugs and shouldnt be treated the same... pubs = random noobs.. pugs have only good players.. it makes sense to try in pugs... how are you meant to prepare/train for any clan or tourny games when those games are the only ones you try in?... unless you play tournaments and clan matches every day :/
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players here dont take pugs very seriously but the argument here is that pubs are from pugs and shouldnt be treated the same... pubs = random noobs.. pugs have only good players.. it makes sense to try in pugs... how are you meant to prepare/train for any clan or tourny games when those games are the only ones you try in?... unless you play tournaments and clan matches every day :/
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Originally posted by Sir Hulk Z

Shin is one of the top perennial Xbox gamers on Live and has been for a long time. Something myself and a select few also pride ourselves with and thats our ability to adapt and be the best in whatever game we invest in. Shin has a strong personality and not a lot of people can handle that though so when he says things like "legend" people troll. Understandable, but really we should focus on the gameplay. He is on the short list of best FPS gamers on XBL and his resume proves it. He just won a SFxTekken tourney the other day lol. He wasn't referring to himself as "legend" due to that 1 game, he was referring to his long list of accolades and stature on XBL.

Like I said we've been around a long time lol. Every game I mentioned I had the best team at one point and was on a short list of its best players. I'm just not as blunt as Shin lol. 


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Originally posted by Sir Hulk Z

Why are pugs and pubs different? Have you not been listening? I, as well as others including Type Z, treat them the same way. One usually has much better players but the atmosphere is the same. Its all in good fun. Pugs and pubs are equal to us. They are just random games for fun and practice.


well congrats on never getting better if you dont try at anything


Lol

I think I've done quite well thus far but thanks. Match time is where you go hard. When somethings on the line. Hence the reason we can mess around in pubs/pugs but win our tournament matches 2v3 in the CTF or 50 to 8 in the TDM.

lol remember who you faced -___-
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Are you guys in clans or teams? Im trying to grasp why pugs are so serious for you. If you arent that may explain why. Pugs are the only chance you guys get to play quality opponents so you try really hard. That would make sense if thats the case.

Also, scrims =/= pugs.
You shouldn't have to rely on your team. Thats why. 
Never said scrims were pugs, but they're similar. They are a pick up game on the spot.

and yeah you're doin bad if my 4 years on 1 game trump 10 years on however much   D:

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Are you guys in clans or teams? Im trying to grasp why pugs are so serious for you. If you arent that may explain why. Pugs are the only chance you guys get to play quality opponents so you try really hard. That would make sense if thats the case.

Also, scrims =/= pugs.
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I think i know how to prepare for a clan match lol but ok buddy. Keep telling me how I should play. Im sure youre 2 years of gaming trumps my 10 years gaming competitively where ive won multiple tournaments and cash/prizes.

Youre completely lost as well Death. You still cant grasp my argument and i layed it out for you. No sense in continuing. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Sir Hulk Z

Why are pugs and pubs different? Have you not been listening? I, as well as others including Type Z, treat them the same way. One usually has much better players but the atmosphere is the same. Its all in good fun. Pugs and pubs are equal to us. They are just random games for fun and practice.


well congrats on never getting better if you dont try at anything


Lol

I think I've done quite well thus far but thanks. Match time is where you go hard. When somethings on the line. Hence the reason we can mess around in pubs/pugs but win our tournament matches 2v3 in the CTF or 50 to 8 in the TDM.
you prepare for the clan match in pugs/scrims

you perform in the clan match

seems like I'm on my 2nd competitive shooter and I've grasped this better than others   O_O
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I wouldn't be saying anything had we won. I wasn't even in the match. I've actually played pengwin in a pub and made him quit out. I haven't even mentioned it till now. Pubs mean nothing. He could be a really good player for all I know. Server could have been laggy, etc.  ld sit here and post his stats but that's not fair to him.

I don't see why we are attacking skills. Myself as well as Shin and other Type Z members have been the best gamers on Xbox for years. I was a top player in RTCW, CSX, Top 8 in Halo2, then I quit to finish college for 2 years, then came back to be a top player in Transformers WFC, Wolfenstein, Brink, QAA, Madden 12, and a couple of others I can't even remember right now. No one is missing a beat and certainly not anyone here is gonna walk all over us old school gamers lol. Lets settle down a bit.
why do people always think if they are doing good in a match that "they" are the reason people quit out????   maybe he had other **** to do or went to eat??   curious if i was playing in a match with you hulk and i left mid game.....would it be because of you????LOLLOL


I don't know if you just haven't read the thread or what but you actually just made my point lol. Thank you. 
i dont know if you actually read what i said under your quote or got the "point" at all.  i know penguin pretty good and i would put everything in the bank he didnt rage quit due to you.  he doesnt care enough about win/loosing games to do that so your point is void.  and at first you say "YOU" made him quit out, then you back track and say it coulda been lag or w/e so er yea


I can't understand your attempts at English. Please type coherently.

That said my point was there is no sense in mentioning or bragging about pugs. 9/10 they are not taken very seriously. They are for fun. The other point I was trying to make across is that a very player in this thread who is degrading another player for their pug performance happened to quit out of a room he wasn't doing so hot in. Had I taken your approach I could have easily nullified any argument he presented by saying "oh please I made you quit out you suck" or posted "penqwin went so and so negative", etc. Instead I refrained from it because I understand pugs are for fun. Shin could have went 1-20 it doesn't matter. You went double neg against nubs in that video and no one is going x_x "omg brutal lol". 


you contadict yourself at every point.
1st you say "YOU" made him rage quit a "PUB" not PUG, than say or it coulda been this or that.
2nd you say "PUG"s are not ment to be taken serious?  then just play PUBS if thats the case right?
3rd "my approach"?  to what?  i didnt take the approach you talk about in any posting, do you see where i say anything about someones skill or ect?
4th oh darn i went negitive in a random "PUB" match on shin's host.  i never said he wasnt good at it just that its funny cause that game has the most retarded connectivity issues any everyone knows that.  guess if i cared about my end score there i would "rage quit" not to mention that game went over half with just me shin and some other guy.  i guess you dont get where advantages are not applicable or worth bosting about.
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Originally posted by Sir Hulk Z

Why are pugs and pubs different? Have you not been listening? I, as well as others including Type Z, treat them the same way. One usually has much better players but the atmosphere is the same. Its all in good fun. Pugs and pubs are equal to us. They are just random games for fun and practice.


well congrats on never getting better if you dont try at anything


Lol

I think I've done quite well thus far but thanks. Match time is where you go hard. When somethings on the line. Hence the reason we can mess around in pubs/pugs but win our tournament matches 2v3 in the CTF or 50 to 8 in the TDM.
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Originally posted by Sir Hulk Z

Why are pugs and pubs different? Have you not been listening? I, as well as others including Type Z, treat them the same way. One usually has much better players but the atmosphere is the same. Its all in good fun. Pugs and pubs are equal to us. They are just random games for fun and practice.

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Why are pugs and pubs different? Have you not been listening? I, as well as others including Type Z, treat them the same way. One usually has much better players but the atmosphere is the same. Its all in good fun. Pugs and pubs are equal to us. They are just random games for fun and practice.

Lol everyone has gone negative even on host, including the best players I've had the privelage of playing with and against. No sense in trying to flex your epeen with me. Been there done that and seen it all.
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uhh pugs are supposed to be treated somewhat seriously, if not why not just go play pubs lmao

makes no sense to go into a pug just to f*** around


If i wanted to work on my Ravisher or Nex i would do it in a pug. Whats the point in practicing against nubs who cant move or dodge? That wont get me any better. Had he known he was being judged Im sure he would have waited for a set 3. They played Phantacis team not Phant and 2 randies. Seb wasnt even on Z at the time and Skills doesnt even play the game. You think anyone would have played tryhard under those conditions? It was just for fun. No need to even bring that up even if someone asks. Would Penqwin appreciate me saying I made him quit out if someone asks me if hes good or have i played him? I doubt it and im sure hed defend himself.
That is pengwin lol.
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uhh pugs are supposed to be treated somewhat seriously, if not why not just go play pubs lmao

makes no sense to go into a pug just to f*** around


If i wanted to work on my Ravisher or Nex i would do it in a pug. Whats the point in practicing against nubs who cant move or dodge? That wont get me any better. Had he known he was being judged Im sure he would have waited for a set 3. They played Phantacis team not Phant and 2 randies. Seb wasnt even on Z at the time and Skills doesnt even play the game. You think anyone would have played tryhard under those conditions? It was just for fun. No need to even bring that up even if someone asks. Would Penqwin appreciate me saying I made him quit out if someone asks me if hes good or have i played him? I doubt it and im sure hed defend himself.


YOU ARE COMPARING PERFORMANCE IN A PUG, TO PERFORMANCE IN A PUB.
Two completely different things. 
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uhh pugs are supposed to be treated somewhat seriously, if not why not just go play pubs lmao

makes no sense to go into a pug just to f*** around


If i wanted to work on my Ravisher or Nex i would do it in a pug. Whats the point in practicing against nubs who cant move or dodge? That wont get me any better. Had he known he was being judged Im sure he would have waited for a set 3. They played Phantacis team not Phant and 2 randies. Seb wasnt even on Z at the time and Skills doesnt even play the game. You think anyone would have played tryhard under those conditions? It was just for fun. No need to even bring that up even if someone asks. Would Penqwin appreciate me saying I made him quit out if someone asks me if hes good or have i played him? I doubt it and im sure hed defend himself.
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"The Legend" lmfao
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I was linked to this by a buddy who frequents.

I wouldn't be saying anything had we won. I wasn't even in the match. I've actually played pengwin in a pub and made him quit out. I haven't even mentioned it till now. Pubs mean nothing. He could be a really good player for all I know. Server could have been laggy, etc.  ld sit here and post his stats but that's not fair to him.

I don't see why we are attacking skills. Myself as well as Shin and other Type Z members have been the best gamers on Xbox for years. I was a top player in RTCW, CSX, Top 8 in Halo2, then I quit to finish college for 2 years, then came back to be a top player in Transformers WFC, Wolfenstein, Brink, QAA, Madden 12, and a couple of others I can't even remember right now. No one is missing a beat and certainly not anyone here is gonna walk all over us old school gamers lol. Lets settle down a bit.
why do people always think if they are doing good in a match that "they" are the reason people quit out????   maybe he had other **** to do or went to eat??   curious if i was playing in a match with you hulk and i left mid game.....would it be because of you????LOLLOL


I don't know if you just haven't read the thread or what but you actually just made my point lol. Thank you. 
i dont know if you actually read what i said under your quote or got the "point" at all.  i know penguin pretty good and i would put everything in the bank he didnt rage quit due to you.  he doesnt care enough about win/loosing games to do that so your point is void.  and at first you say "YOU" made him quit out, then you back track and say it coulda been lag or w/e so er yea


I can't understand your attempts at English. Please type coherently.

That said my point was there is no sense in mentioning or bragging about pugs. 9/10 they are not taken very seriously. They are for fun. The other point I was trying to make across is that a very player in this thread who is degrading another player for their pug performance happened to quit out of a room he wasn't doing so hot in. Had I taken your approach I could have easily nullified any argument he presented by saying "oh please I made you quit out you suck" or posted "penqwin went so and so negative", etc. Instead I refrained from it because I understand pugs are for fun. Shin could have went 1-20 it doesn't matter. You went double neg against nubs in that video and no one is going x_x "omg brutal lol". 


Hulk, I'd bet money Shind recorded our "pug fun love match" but when he went negative both games deleted the recordings.
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uhh pugs are supposed to be treated somewhat seriously, if not why not just go play pubs lmao

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I was linked to this by a buddy who frequents.

I wouldn't be saying anything had we won. I wasn't even in the match. I've actually played pengwin in a pub and made him quit out. I haven't even mentioned it till now. Pubs mean nothing. He could be a really good player for all I know. Server could have been laggy, etc.  ld sit here and post his stats but that's not fair to him.

I don't see why we are attacking skills. Myself as well as Shin and other Type Z members have been the best gamers on Xbox for years. I was a top player in RTCW, CSX, Top 8 in Halo2, then I quit to finish college for 2 years, then came back to be a top player in Transformers WFC, Wolfenstein, Brink, QAA, Madden 12, and a couple of others I can't even remember right now. No one is missing a beat and certainly not anyone here is gonna walk all over us old school gamers lol. Lets settle down a bit.
why do people always think if they are doing good in a match that "they" are the reason people quit out????   maybe he had other **** to do or went to eat??   curious if i was playing in a match with you hulk and i left mid game.....would it be because of you????LOLLOL


I don't know if you just haven't read the thread or what but you actually just made my point lol. Thank you. 
i dont know if you actually read what i said under your quote or got the "point" at all.  i know penguin pretty good and i would put everything in the bank he didnt rage quit due to you.  he doesnt care enough about win/loosing games to do that so your point is void.  and at first you say "YOU" made him quit out, then you back track and say it coulda been lag or w/e so er yea


I can't understand your attempts at English. Please type coherently.

That said my point was there is no sense in mentioning or bragging about pugs. 9/10 they are not taken very seriously. They are for fun. The other point I was trying to make across is that a very player in this thread who is degrading another player for their pug performance happened to quit out of a room he wasn't doing so hot in. Had I taken your approach I could have easily nullified any argument he presented by saying "oh please I made you quit out you suck" or posted "penqwin went so and so negative", etc. Instead I refrained from it because I understand pugs are for fun. Shin could have went 1-20 it doesn't matter. You went double neg against nubs in that video and no one is going x_x "omg brutal lol". 


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