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    Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 2:40pm
Well after making my other thread: http://www.iamgaming.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2727&title=my-conclusion-long-read
 
I read some of the posts and decided to help with some tips, concerning duel. Since getting 10-0d really isnt fun. (I know, but hasnt happened to me in months)
 
 
1. My most important tip! You need to know who you are playing! If your playing a shock wh0re (rico), sniper wh0re(paw), or flak wh0re ( everyone else, ok not everyone).
 
If your playing hitscan users, and you know that their hitscan is better than yours DO NOT have little shock rifle battles. Yeah it looks cool but you will end up getting comboed or headshotted.
Im not saying dont use it at all, but if you both have equal health 9 times out of ten they will win.
 
Now for those flak wh0res, 95% of the time that is the ONLY weapon I mean ONLY weapon they can get kills with. I suggest staying as far away as possible and using hitscan on them. If they start chargin at you use the mini gun or link gun. YOU MUST I MEAN MUST take the flak cannon after you kill them, and pick up the next one that spawns. You do that, and you force them to use the other weapons they have no idea how to use.  However be warned some people that can flak wh0re such as me and pawweezy can use other weapons. So always have a projectile and hitscan weapon on you.
 
 
2. What to do after you die or when you just respawn....
First off if you get a sh1tty spawn, you need to get away as fast as possible. For instance at deck, if you spawn at the link gun, after dyin there... I suggest you head to the teleporter instead of the link gun. I've  gotten to many double kills from people spawning there. There are some cases when once you spawn you die and you cant stop that.
 
However at the beginning of the game, I always suggest you do the following.
Always head to the armor you are closest to, and take weapons on your way there, as long as yor not going out of your way. For instance if you spawn at the mini gun at deck, head straight to the vest, dont go to the sniper than the vest. If you just spawn PLEASE, pick up some vials. That way you survive that rocket or usually the flak ball. (sometimes flak ball kills you when you have 125...)
I hate watching people just spawn and ignore vials. Thats why they die so fast. If you pick it up then they dont get it.
 
Basically Im trying to tell you to pick up as much armor as you can as fast as you can.
 
 
3. Timing....
 
The shield belt is something you always want to have. However if the other person is about to grab, dont be scared to take a sniper/shock shot on them. Who knows you might knock them off, or get a headshot taking all the armor away.
 
If you know its about to spawn please head towards it. However if the score is 0-0 that means you both most likely have armor and health. That means you want to take the best postition on the belt. For instance at deck you wanna be above the belt not below it.
 
When the game just starts and you take the vest, I suggest timing it. If you get the vest immediately it will be back about 30 seconds later. I normally go back to hit, and hammer myself so i can pick it up again. Thats one less piece of armor for the enemy. Also if you know for a fact they took it immediately, head over towards it when its about to spawn. (make sure they arent around)
 
 
4. Getting the kill.
You know there is one thing I hate to watch. I hate seeing someone weaken the opponent so much, but then they get away. (i dont mind doing it lol, im a pro at running away) Please, please, please if someone just spawned and you sniped them and you miss the 2nd shot, IMMEDIATELY switch to the stinger primary, or alt link. Yeah it looks cool to get back to back snipes, but you look like an a** when you dont switch weapons and they get away. Forget getting the amazing kills, if they are hurting switch to the mini or link. If you dont have either the enforcer is the best bet.
I've gotten away so many times, because someone thought they were unstoppable with the shock or snipe. Sorry buddy you are not Loque on Godlike. If its close quarters always use the flak as well.
 
5. I will add more when I can. i hope some of this helps.
 
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Nice tips, thanks ;)
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be creative :P
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good **** with these tips i shall kick ur a** lol
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Nice post... paw told me most of this stuff in game before... I still sucked but then I never really gave duelling a chance. 
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Should i add some tips of my own as well? :D
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sure remy.
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Originally posted by FoeBia

 
1. My most important tip! You need to know who you are playing! If your playing a shock wh0re (rico), sniper wh0re(paw), or flak wh0re ( everyone else, ok not everyone).
 
 
 
It's hard to tell who you are playing now days, people have so many alternate accounts.
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Originally posted by sickboogiemurder

Originally posted by FoeBia

 
1. My most important tip! You need to know who you are playing! If your playing a shock wh0re (rico), sniper wh0re(paw), or flak wh0re ( everyone else, ok not everyone).
 
 
 
It's hard to tell who you are playing now days, people have so many alternate accounts.

Yeah, especially duelers imo. What's the point??/
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Originally posted by JakeT111

Originally posted by sickboogiemurder

Originally posted by FoeBia

 
1. My most important tip! You need to know who you are playing! If your playing a shock wh0re (rico), sniper wh0re(paw), or flak wh0re ( everyone else, ok not everyone).
 
 
 
It's hard to tell who you are playing now days, people have so many alternate accounts.

Yeah, especially duelers imo. What's the point??/


A good dueler should always be able to adapt to every situation. Adapting to your opponent's playstyle will most likely lmake you the winner.

for example: a player who likes getting up close and personal with flak or rockets can be countered by keeping them away with +back mode and firing shock. keeping ur opponent at a distance.

a person who likes to setup ambushes and use sound as advantage you should stay away from places that can lead to those situations. use items such as armors or the belt or the health to stray away from waiting too long for that ambush.

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normally when I play someone and I don't know who it is, I'll play cautiously.
After our first encounter I adapt and go from.
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I wonder how many people will actually read these tips and utilize them?
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Originally posted by XKaL1buR

I wonder how many people will actually read these tips and utilize them?
honestly almost no one cause barely anyone duels and mostly everyone is a vehicle player lol
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Dodging too often does not translate.... well to dodge. It makes you vulnerable and predictable. Mix it up with some bad a** regular strafing! Long strides and small strides like for example.

long/short/short/long/dodge/short/dodge. you get the idea.
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or do like me and just stand still
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i dont know if this is a tip or not but as for me if you are playing someone way better than yourself, i think it is a good idea to set realistic goals for the match i.e. "I am going to kill ______ 3 times this time" or something like that...Start taking small steps and it will help with confidence IMO
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Originally posted by SRC_ROLLTIDE

i dont know if this is a tip or not but as for me if you are playing someone way better than yourself, i think it is a good idea to set realistic goals for the match i.e. "I am going to kill ______ 3 times this time" or something like that...Start taking small steps and it will help with confidence IMO

Thats right rolltide! You can't be afraid to lose, I lost countless times to like almost everyone. Baby steps, you get a little better each time.
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fancy footwork is all you need. get to steppin!
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Originally posted by ReverendCrow

Originally posted by XKaL1buR

I wonder how many people will actually read these tips and utilize them?
honestly almost no one cause barely anyone duels and mostly everyone is a vehicle player lol
Kali and Rev you coulda put a "nice post but" in front of your comment and no, what you said is simply not true! Vehicle players DO read this stuff and they try it but few convert to dueling mostly bec its more like a chess match compared to instant action of vehicles. TBH I dont know a true vehicle player as in one that sticks simply to vehicle modes ONLY.
I think most peeps run with vehicles first becauseĀ 
(a) Its novel - different than other games hence appeal
(b) You can kill easier and get points on the board which encourages you to participate
(c) They didnt cover the basics by running through the campaign mode
OK back on topic, like I said in previous posts i'll give it a roll and so i'm reading Remys and this post b4 I dip in the water. For me its not about becoming a dueler. Ive dueled excellent players like Greeny, ThattsMatt and Shewulph and theyve kicked my a** seriously so i know its not for me. But I want to try something different this week and maybe a while longer. Also it makes you a better player all round. I know cos when I was serious about this game b4 league started I used to warm up by playing TDM then went straight into VCTF. It made you sharp especially as I was primarily not in a vehicle, me and Ether404 played on foot or in a viper/manta if we could get one. Also like I said I was playin this game b4 the introduction of vehicles (which veered away from Quake, Doom etc making it different) so it still appeals to me. Back then Duel didnt exist either so like vehicles i'll give this a shot. Sorry forgot to say tnx for the excellent advice mate, hope u do one on movement and dodging cos combined with aiming =success or fail/ survival/death i would think.
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hitscan.....?

i still don't know most of the lingo for this game,
vedakid had to tell me the difference between a pug and a pub, jajajaja. 
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Hitscan is a weapon that instantly hits when shot. Sniper, Shock, Minigun, Enforcer, Link secondary are all hitscan.
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Lol great summary Phant, to bad I know all that tho. As far as flak whore I know I'm safe cause you know I never use it but for some reason I thank I got mixed in the part where I get a sniper shot then don't change my weapons and try to snipe again. Lol, I have a bad habit of that and just get caught up in the moment.

That is a gd tip and I stand by it, sometimes I'm just like *** it, I can get another snipe or shock hit on him. Anyways keep the thread going Phantaci, that helps a lot for those that don't know.
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hitscan.....?

i still don't know most of the lingo for this game,
vedakid had to tell me the difference between a pug and a pub, jajajaja. 
 
it's ok Dorien XD I had to ask someone too :P
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Originally posted by XKaL1buR

I wonder how many people will actually read these tips and utilize them?
im reading them and tryin to get better @ duels!
but just cuzz i read em' dont mean im just gonna beast right away, im still gettin my as.s kicked
alot but in time hopefully i will get better!Smile
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