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NecroBeestiality
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Topic: Future Car - What Car Do You Want? Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 1:16pm |
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Keep in mind who this is coming from though. I have been thinking about moving away from the teenage car of choice/coke can on wheels/honda civic to a prelude, integra, accord or even 240sx for about a year now. I have been painstakingly going through the ways in my mind how I can overcome the added 2,3,4, 5 or 600lb weight increase that will come with any of those choices so your talking to an extreme weight snob. In my crazy head, more weight = need more power = need more $. If I had the cheddar, I would have bought an M3 or an S4 and been done with it but I don't. I have dreams of pushing something sleeperish in the 12/13 second range with plush insides upgraded by me. Essentially a japanese, poor mans m3 or s4 lol. And yeah I am well aware s4s are stupid heavy. The AWD justifies the weight penalty when u live in climate like mine however.
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House Music All Night Long
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NecroBeestiality
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 12:48pm | ||
Ah. I see. That is pretty slick. As for the cars you mentioned.... Vettes don't weigh 3500lbs and I don't think they ever will, because they are pure sports cars and GM knows pure sports cars have to handle very well. That doesn't happen at 3500lbs. 3000lbs is the magic number for a compromise between ride quality, handling, interior room and other factors. If you look at the best handling cars in the world based on subjective, opinion based reviews and slalom numbers, you will see cars like the Corvette Z06, Porsche Cayman S, Subaru STI, Mitsu EVO MR, BMW M3 CSL, Mazda RX-8. Yes these are all lightweight variants of their base form. However, even in their base form they are each well south of 3500lbs. These cars have almost neutral handling characteristics, or in the case of the ZO6, have some oversteer tendencies but that is to be expected. I am afriad to say the Challenger got some extremely ****ty reviews for its handling unlike the Camaro. That thing is an anchor though and also rides very very comfortably. The Mustang GT is barely under 3500lbs but its handling regularly gets **** on by the likes of all major car magazines due to its archaic live rear axle. Somehow that thing has survived redesign after redesign. Unlike the archaic rear engine design of the Porsche Carerra, the live rear axel hit its maximum potential 20 years ago in the Fox body. I am sure that is because of a combination of the inherent German neurotic quest for dominance as well as a higher price per car. The M5 and Camaro handle brilliantly! But its all relative my friend. The Mercedes S63AMG, at nearly 5000lbs handles incredibly. But handling well at 3800, or 5000lbs is not something thats going to hold al candle on the track to cars with or without less power closer to the 3000lb mark. I mean the differences are going to glacial. Ma**ive. The efforts by companies that put out good handling yet heavy vehicles are heroic but good handling is a relative term to the weight and the BEST handling commercially available cars under $100,000 are all in the 3000lb range. |
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House Music All Night Long
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BAB NRG
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 12:33pm | ||
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LOL-i-ZER
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2009 at 11:57am | ||
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OUCH !! THAT HURTS
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BAB NRG
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Dec 2009 at 3:39pm | ||
Thanks Cokkenballs, I enjoy reading your posts, your a cool dude.....
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HanFei
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 9:43pm | ||
Thx, although I would like to claim I made the background, I found it looking for Matrix photos to use.
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COKKENBALLS
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 6:49pm | ||
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COKKENBALLS
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 6:48pm | ||
That is an absolutely sick ride. I like what you did with the wheels too.
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HanFei
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 6:46pm | ||
Bus, lol. jk
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Fluffy Fluffington
Team Deep The Fluffer Joined: 11 Mar 2009 Location: USA Online Status: Offline Posts: 2065 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 6:25pm | ||
I do not have Winter wheels, on my old 3 series I used to have my Winters on Mille Miglias ... but my stock wheels are still pretty sweet
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BAB NRG
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 4:58pm | ||
I saw mention of the Challenger SRT-8. I purchased this car six months ago and this is by far the best car I have ever owned. Can't imagine one being better.
I just recently had the wheels powder-coated black and had a tint applied to the windows. I have more pics if you want to see them.
(If you click on the picture it will show a larger version)
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SP61gTSupra
Team TRU Splash with me! Joined: 29 Nov 2008 Location: Greenville Online Status: Offline Posts: 2974 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 4:51am | ||
The car i want, is my car, with 40-50 thousand dollars dumped into it.
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COKKENBALLS
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 4:48am | ||
3500lbs is nothing. Vette's, M5's, New Camaro's, Mustangs, GTO's weigh over 4000lbs and they handle just fine. They key is eliminating the 40 year old technology (leaf springs). The air bags are valved with computer controlls that take care of damping, rate, ride height etc. When I park the car, I can drop it in the weeds. When I go to the track, I raise the rear to accomodate the slicks. If I'm taking the car around town, I can adjust the suspension for comfort. All at the touch of a button. The kit I want can be found here. . . .
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LOL-i-ZER
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Dec 2009 at 4:25am | ||
to Necro: you're right, I know the problem Peugeot had in the 80's. But it was 30 years ago !!
here is my choice: french but own by germans ;-)
Bugatti Veyron, 1000HP, 407 km/h (253 Mph)
check this:
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OUCH !! THAT HURTS
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NecroBeestiality
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 11:25pm | ||
awesome. i have owned automatics but i will never own another as long as i have legs. blizzaks.....how much of a diff do the really make? is it huge? does it make a powerful rwd car like yours manageable in slippery, cold conditions? and do u have winter wheels or do you have your summer tires removed from your original wheels? check out the mcintosh mxa60. if i needed to spend around 7 stacks on a stereo/speaker combo, it would be on that. |
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House Music All Night Long
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NecroBeestiality
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 11:21pm | ||
what will air ride do for its handling? i have only heard of air ride suspensions on 4x4 rock crawling offroaders.....i am curious because getting a 3500lb+ car to handle well must be tricky.
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House Music All Night Long
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COKKENBALLS
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 10:25pm | ||
That would be the best of both worlds. All the nuts you need, but comfortable to drive. I love my LeMans, but until I put about 5k worth of AirRide suspension in her, she's gonna handle like a waterbed.
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NecroBeestiality
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 5:58pm | ||
Yeah. SRT-8, then give it the John Hennessey treatment with a pair of Turbos. |
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House Music All Night Long
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COKKENBALLS
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 4:23pm | ||
If I bought new, I would have to get the new Dodge Challenger. Otherwise, I have my dream car, which I am building in my image. She's a 1967 Pontiac LeMans.
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Fluffy Fluffington
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 2:54pm | ||
Eloquently put Necro
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Fluffy Fluffington
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 2:53pm | ||
Can't argue there, but I only do Street Races against Vin Diesel.
If I have my choice of anything I'll still take a BMW or Maserati over anything French made just a personal pref.
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Fluffy Fluffington
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 2:49pm | ||
Coup
Stick Shift ... I have never owned an automatic my entire driving career.
Going to put on my Winter Tires on Friday ... Blizzaks
Klipsch Speakers
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NecroBeestiality
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 2:26pm | ||
Peugeot imported cars to the United States with extremely poor results. It seems that during the 80s Peugeot had some serious quality control issues and the reliability of their cars is kind of a joke here in the states. They may make wonderful cars today but that is the reputation that exists here in the states. Much like American cars are humorous to the rest of the world. Never mind that our heavy duty trucks simply have no competition, nor does our Corvette in terms competition in the $50,000 range. We have had some brilliant automotive success here but our image and repuation is in the garbage rightly so and for many reasons.
No one is saying anything about the racing credentials of the French Automotive industry but lets face it, outside of the racing success, rally sucess, and that AWESOME mid-engine hatchback (clio), France (as does the US) pales in comparison to what Italy and Germany regularly pump out in the premium sports car segment.....am I wrong? |
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House Music All Night Long
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LOL-i-ZER
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 3:48am | ||
I know US citizen don't know the french cars, but for your information RENAULT (that owns NISSAN) is the fourth CAR manufacturer in the world and PEUGEOT CITROEN the fifth.
For sport cars: CITROEN has been WRC world champion for 5 of the last 6 years, and before it was PEUGEOT.
PEUGEOT won last 24 H LE MANS race.
RENAULT was F1 world champion some years ago, and won more than 100 F1 race has an engine manufacturer.
Oxymoron you said...
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NecroBeestiality
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 02 Dec 2009 at 12:49am | ||
awwww u got the red leather? that is beautiful. do you have paddles or stick? coupe or sedan? xi or i?
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House Music All Night Long
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