California SMH

@sizzle...your analogy is is faulty in its logic and heres how: racists tell black people to go back to Africa because they hate black people, or mexicans back to Mexico same reason. Saying that if you want to live under Christian law that you should move to the Vatican because the founding document for our country specifically states the freedom of religion & that no 1 religion should be treated any more favorably than another, and none should have influence in the government....that is just a reiteration of the actual law of this country. If you want a more correct analogy, itd be like going to a school that requires uniforms and trying to dress in your own casual clothes. You knew the rules when you started at the school, and if you don't want to wear a uniform thats fine but you wont be doing it at this school.

Originally posted by SIZZLE after Seph sobers up he's probably going to troll this thread hard

Why? Its a stupid thread, an ignorant guy is attacking when he thinks he is giving an opinion and is to stupid to realize it. The only thing worth trolling is Fehtalatees dumb ass comments but really isn't worth my time. Easier to ignore, lol.

And i dont drink much anymore, i drink one to three red beers every other night, but only have gotten drunk twice in the year 2013. Lifestyle was getting a little to hard on my body. Health took a **** lol.

TX stop writing books. Technically no body reads that crap because it's to damn long, ;)

Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7 Originally posted by SIZZLE after Seph sobers up he's probably going to troll this thread hard Why? Its a stupid thread, an ignorant guy is attacking when he thinks he is giving an opinion and is to stupid to realize it. The only thing worth trolling is Fehtalatees dumb ass comments but really isn't worth my time. Easier to ignore, lol. And i dont drink much anymore, i drink one to three red beers every other night, but only have gotten drunk twice in the year 2013. Lifestyle was getting a little to hard on my body. Health took a **** lol. TX stop writing books. Technically no body reads that crap because it's to damn long, ;)

okay, explain Seph. How was my comment dumb? either bring something to the table or gtfo.

I'm sorry I choose to provide a valid & thought-out response that actually tries to move the issue forward rather than just shouting 'f@g' or 'bigot' at people and calling it a day. For all the complaints I hear about my generation's lack of attention span, I'm seeing more of it from those in previous generations.

Originally posted by drdeath2point0 Same sex marriage is definately a turn for the worse. Wth is wrong with people these days

You started a thread just to say this. Asking what is wrong with ppl and saying gay marriage is a turn for the worse is an attack. If someone asked you how you feel about it then it might pass as an opinion. But started a thread to say it is just fvcking ignorant.

California aint bankrupt :)
we the best state in the union by far even in spite of the liberals lol.

Originally posted by Sephiroth_V7 Originally posted by drdeath2point0 Same sex marriage is definately a turn for the worse. Wth is wrong with people these days You started a thread just to say this. Asking what is wrong with ppl and saying gay marriage is a turn for the worse is an attack. If someone asked you how you feel about it then it might pass as an opinion. But started a thread to say it is just fvcking ignorant.

Obviously I was talking about the people that let this **** pass through the court system and the people for being gay. but saying "wth is wrong with people" is border line sad puppy lingo. A cry for help if you will. Def not an attack.

Originally posted by drdeath2point0 O and jp where were you at when two fase oneman rjd3 j rivers and some other were actually playing ut3 the other night it was semi fun.

What or who is a ..."ut3" ???

Originally posted by TX2k7 No sizzle, we are talking about marriage, period, which at its most base form that I can boil it down to is the joining of multiple people (multiple meaning more than one) marking an intimate or bonded union. That includes a long history yes, as it is a very old custom, so it shouldn't be completely unexpected if I bring up some of that past, which I did only a couple times to make 1 very specific point. Cali's not bad either, Six Flags, Beaches and everything inbetween lol much fun to be had. Would love to see you even try to make a shot against me in basketball lol you know im a tall ass mofo right?

your point was to state that marriage existed before Christianity which doesn't matter in the first place, because religion existed before Christianity and i obviously know that... your trying to act like marriage existed before religion which can't be proved 4 sure either way so your pushing an invalid point in that case... i'm sure you will concede that marriage obviously didn't exist before GOD and GODs will is religion and the law... its that simple... non believers see it differently and thats their buisness not mine... man made law will always depend on who has the votes and it is subject to change... marriage is between a man and a woman period... i don't care what your states new man made politicol law says i know different

and it don't matter how tall you are you couldn't stop me TX i don't get blocked by slow tall guys :)

^good post. Objective view and logical presentation. Me like 

Originally posted by TX2k7 actually i cannot concede that. Something on the order of 1000 or more different gods in all human history, its just as likely any one of the other gods was the real one, of course its just as likely theres none at all. So to say marriage didnt exist before God (and i feel safe assuming you mean bible God) would be assuming two things: 1) A god exists and 2) the god that exists is your specific god that you believe in statistically you have a 50/50 chance a god exists (a god either exists or doesn't right?)...so of the 50% that says a god exists, your specific god is just 1 out of 1000 (a very conservative estimate) so now we are at a 0.05% chance thay your specific god exists and thats on a good day assuming the number of gods worldwide in all human history is that low. At this point it comes down to which came first, marriage or religion, which as you said cannot be proved either way which is why I never made that claim to begin with. What I did say was that marriage pre-dates christianity, which is true, therefore christianity has no legitimate claim on defining marriage. and you bastard i said i was tall, not fat lol im quick so good luck

erm id say that there's a 100% chance that my GOD exists TX, and id say you were trying to imply that marriage existed before religion... either way i'm glad i straightened that out for you

if i had to guess id say that Matt, Blink and shaker might be gay? i like all three of them... i don't judge period, but gay marriage isn't something i can support

and you might think your quick, but if we played you'd realise just how slow you are lol

omg TX! GET OUT OF HERE!!

Originally posted by i2ockyracoon Shut up feh