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    Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

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evolution is still in question atm even though many scientists do think there's enough evidence to support it.tools found on Flores island have been dated back to 1 million years ago? homo sapiens existed 1 million years ago? what does that do to most models for evolution?chimp-homo sapien-neanderthal-homo sapien? evolve-de evolve-evolve? the dates still don't add up yet imo
Do you have some source for this? There are 1,321,369 peer reviewed Journal Articles that include evolution - from a quick search on a public library. http://ncsu.summon.serialssolutions.com/search?s.cmd=removeFacetValueFilter(SubjectTerms,evolution)&s.fvf%5B%5D=SubjectTerms,evolution,&s.fvf%5B%5D=ContentType,Journal+Article,&s.pn=1&s.q=Evolution If you pick up intelligent design, you can have your faith and science too!


i don't just pick anything Han Fei. when looking for the truth you have to concider the source. there's strong motivations to prove religion is wrong! and im talking about science not religion here! there are many scientists looking for ways to discredit religion! “when religion is a thing of the past”? ‹--thats clear bias and it doesn't belong in science period!

that being said everyone needs to guard against false facts that are motivated by any kind of bias in science. BIAS is the enemy of science and logic!

the true facts about human evolution are still in question at this time imo. what if they dig up an older skeleton in lets say France next week? my point in that is unless the whorld is dug up we can't say for sure what all the facts are.

1 million year old tools? there's always someone who knows something that you don't know, and that goes for all of us.
Yo sry to pick up this post again, but now you said how important good sources are, although didn't provide any still.
I was ( and I think HanFei also) just interested to see a source, maybe an article about it so we can picture ourselves how reliable that source is.
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the gravity force ?


hm? great guess. if Mass increases when a body or object is in motion and gets bigger and bigger the faster the body or object goes. what does that say if gravity is the answer? hahaha
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"the Mass increases when a body or object is in motion and gets bigger and bigger the faster the body or object goes"
 
if that is true, stop running then Tongue
 
 
Really, I have no idea ... I've always hated physical science
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

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the gravity force ?


hm? great guess. if Mass increases when a body or object is in motion and gets bigger and bigger the faster the body or object goes. what does that say if gravity is the answer? hahaha

dont remember all, but isnt it the density of an object? combined with gravity makes for x kilograms or whatever
and the reason it'll speed up is the momentum of the object
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Originally posted by valjohn

"the Mass increases when a body or object is in motion and gets bigger and bigger the faster the body or object goes"
 
if that is true, stop running then Tongue
 
 
Really, I have no idea ... I've always hated physical science


the theory's aren't all that complicated because most of the work has already been done.

how we age could be applied and we could concievably stop the aging process. but that would lead to an over populated planet xD





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indeed but then again we could fix some laws like 1 kid by couple only

 
 
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indeed but then again we could fix some laws like 1 kid by couple only

 
 


that would be intrusion, and besides there's to many laws already

maybe spade or nutered lol
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if you'd stop the age-ing process and only have 1 child per couple... does that mean those children cannot go out and meet people? because otherwise you'd still keep expanding
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in China they already do so ... I think (talking about the only child)

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if you'd stop the age-ing process and only have 1 child per couple... does that mean those children cannot go out and meet people? because otherwise you'd still keep expanding
 
stoping the age-ing process doesn mean immortality ... people would be looking good longer
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They leave you a choice in China, choosing only one kid gives you HUGE bonuses though (as in money and I think maybe even more like a workplace or place to live but not sure about that).
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if you don't age and your cells dont deterriorate, are we assuming mass murders? D:
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Mass being the total amount of Matter in an object and staying the same no matter where the object is at, and Matter increasing in a moving object suggests that objects collect and trap extra matter when moving and release only the extra matter as they slow. or matter expands retracts.

since gravity and speed are both factors in try'n to measure an objects mass, a proper scale or formula is needed to measure an objects mass.

the standard model of partical physics thinks that mass is caused by higgs field, physicists are experimenting at Cern with a large harden cillider to try to find the higgs field. but atm what gives an object its mass is still unknown for sure.
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They leave you a choice in China, choosing only one kid gives you HUGE bonuses though (as in money and I think maybe even more like a workplace or place to live but not sure about that).

Yes, if you are Han Chinese ethnic group, which constituites 92% of mainland. There are exemptions for more children with the economic benefits if you are ethnic minority or rural farmer.
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Mass being the total amount of Matter in an object and staying the same no matter where the object is at, and Matter increasing in a moving object suggests that objects collect and trap extra matter when moving and release only the extra matter as they slow. or matter expands retracts.

made me read into it a little and appearantly there's a difference between mass in rest and relativistic mass, which i didnt know about
when i said an objects mass is determined by its density i just talked about rest mass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_in_special_relativity
some info about it, topic didnt interest me enough to read it all

it mentioned about the mass depending on the frame of reference
for the object itsself, its mass doesnt change
for other frames of reference, a net worth of kinetic energy is involved
it doesnt 'trap' mass, i think energy is added into the mass (not sure if thats what you meant)
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if you don't age and your cells dont deterriorate, are we assuming mass murders? D:


not necessarily mass xD

the closer you are to a large object the slower time goes. the further away you are the faster time goes.

and then there's condenced matter and matter loss that may have something to do with age'ing imo

think of yourself as a body or object with condenced mass when your small. then imagine yourself leaking matter as a certain amount of time goes by. and now think of age'ing being caused by loss of matter.

could loss of matter cause cell degeneration?

im not a phycisist you tell me xD

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Mass being the total amount of Matter in an object and staying the same no matter where the object is at, and Matter increasing in a moving object suggests that objects collect and trap extra matter when moving and release only the extra matter as they slow. or matter expands retracts.
made me read into it a little and appearantly there's a difference between mass in rest and relativistic mass, which i didnt know aboutwhen i said an objects mass is determined by its density i just talked about rest masshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_in_special_relativitysome info about it, topic didnt interest me enough to read it allit mentioned about the mass depending on the frame of referencefor the object itsself, its mass doesnt changefor other frames of reference, a net worth of kinetic energy is involvedit doesnt 'trap' mass, i think energy is added into the mass (not sure if thats what you meant)


you still have to realise that its not yet known 4 sure what causes mass. so saying 4 sure wether extra matter is collected and trapped while an object is moving or the existing matter expands while the object is moving is just impossible atm.

it may be known soon though?   
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lol and then there's anti matter^
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

not necessarily mass xD

the closer you are to a large object the slower time goes. the further away you are the faster time goes.

and then there's condenced matter and matter loss that may have something to do with age'ing imo

think of yourself as a body or object with condenced mass when your small. then imagine yourself leaking matter as a certain amount of time goes by. and now think of age'ing being caused by loss of matter.

could loss of matter cause cell degeneration?

im not a phycisist you tell me xD

If you lose matter (energy), dont you just fill it up again by eating
usually when thinking of age-ing id think biologically, but i guess physically you could find some interesting things possibly - but i really dont know enough of the relativity theories to say much about that..
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thats one of the problems in not knowing 4 sure what causes mass.

time slowing down and speeding up may be another possible way to effect the age'ing process.



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ive been outside all day, and im dam heathy xD

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Syzygy: hey man, came across this, thought it might be something ud be interested in.

studies of the human brain and what happens to it during states of meditation/prayer/etc as well as how our political views might possibly be related to certain ways our brain functions...i suggest u give it a read, id like to hear urs and anyone elses feedback on this, see what ppl think about this artiicle

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/859/what-brain-science-tells-us-about-religious-belief
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It is called HMS Human mind system....
And is mass increasing if speed is increasing, let say mass moves beyond speed of light (Atoms etc) Do matter expand if they exeed a certain speed?
In Einstein's theory it cannot move that fast cos speed of light is linear, but according too Max Planck it goes in waves so that way it can increase by the thousands, depends on how big the matter is... So mass is therefore decreasing!? Or atleast not increasing...
SO: If we breakdown a Human body to just Protons etc we can achieve speed beyond light..
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