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Iuckshot
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Topic: Religion and PoliticsPosted: 30 Sep 2010 at 1:52pm |
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btw that was a serious question before, why can only Christian's souls be saved?
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ax412
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 2:24pm |
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but like 2 cor 5:17
says theres a difference.
when you become born again you receieve a new spirit. and in God's eyes become righteous due to Christ. (ties in with above verse)
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 2:48pm |
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Believing in Jesus and that Jesus is your only chance of salvation is Christianaty. so If someone doesn't believe either then how can they be saved? Acording to Jesus they can't. You either except Jesus as your savior and try to be become ritious or you wont reach Heavan. Hell is the devils domain. The devil wants all souls, and only GOD can save you from the devil. If your not even willing to believe in GOD? why would GOD bother to save you? Makes perfect since to me. |
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DEMON_ON_SLAUGHT
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:07pm |
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It makes sense to me too, even the atheists must see this as plausible, but at the end of the day you don't know until it's happened
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:14pm |
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i have recieved the holy spirit but it didn't make me ritious like Phantaci is saying imo? It was amazing though! The best thing ive ever felt! and no! drugs weren't involved before you try to say it lol |
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:17pm |
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just a question. when people talk about god "saving" them, saving them from what exactly?
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DEMON_ON_SLAUGHT
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:18pm |
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Hell? and i know sizzle will probably love this term for it sooo ETERNAL DAMNATION :D
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Iuckshot
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:25pm |
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So when your spirit has been reborn through accepting Christ, won't this reborn soul be defiled again? I guess they'll just be included in the package as well? As he died for our sins then, old ones as well as new I guess this answers my question, after reading some more of that 2 cor 5 |
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:28pm |
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From what I read God has love for all humans and God is almighty - yet he cannot overlook evil And all humans easily pale in comparison to his perfection But if he is perfect he wouldn't get petty over the humans' conviction I'd think? there has to be a better reason than that Phantaci's response directing me to the passage made more sense imo |
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ax412
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:33pm |
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yeah in christianity. Your a spirit that has a soul and lives in a body.
so Christ died for all sins thes ones you vommit will commit or already did. 1st john 1:9 and luci, mostly saving people from deadly habits or lifestyles and ultimately hell. |
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:41pm |
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trying to understand God with your minds it's useless... that's a knowledge which must come from the heart; u don't find it in books neither at church: u'll find it in yourself the day u're gonna look for it
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:44pm |
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hell - hmm... a place full of chains, whips, scantily clad men and various "torture" devices for all of eternity.. i can't be the only one out their who it thinks it sounds like the coolest club in town!
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:45pm |
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The bible is worth reading even if you choose not to believe any of it. Its still a great book either way. Your question is a good one but the answer would cover so many things. Until you truly have Jesus in your life you can't really know what your missing so some of the answer would have be saving you from living life without Jesus. The after death parts of the answer is a lot more complicated if you try to answer it properly. Im acually weary of giving you a quick answer because its a very important answer. |
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 3:48pm |
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no luci the lake of fire is nothing of that sort.
which is the finale. it's just weeping and gnashin of teeth. the smoke is forever the fire burns forever yet the people are not consumed. No one is torturing anybody if your there you suffer just as much as satan |
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 4:12pm |
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bible schollars disagree on hell though? Some claim there is no real hell. Ive seen so many programs on it that it aint even funny :) |
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 4:13pm |
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B-B-BucKetHe4D !
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 4:27pm |
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hades(the greek word the part where the rich man was and saw lazarus in abraham's bosom) is where an atheist would go if they died today.
after the great white throne judgement they would be cast into the lake of fire.
hell is bad enough, but the lake of fire ? thats a whole other place.
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 4:38pm |
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well it wouldn't take very much misery when your talking about for all eternity. the for all eternity part is the scary part :) |
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TuNA FISh
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 5:51pm |
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talked for like 45 minutes with a guy at my work who goes to "bible college" and another guy at my work who is a minister about Christianity. it was a complete joke.. they said the same exact things that you f***ers say. "science is nothing but theories" "no way someone can understand God's creations" "the earth is too perfect for it to be created by the BIG BANG".. i mean seriously people, do your own research..... i don't feel like educating every single person i have a debate with. if you are going to trash something, atleast understand it first. they were even talking **** about EVOLUTION.. i thought they gave up that bull **** long ago.. don't worry, i was extremely respectful because i know how sensitive Christians are when it comes to their religion, i just think it's funny that they aren't respectful to other peoples religions or to science. i could have f***ed that guy's whole world up if i wanted too, but i have to work with him lol. i could have made him a non believer but i chose not to.. you guys try doing it too
sorry for my rant, but it's really annoying. you people need to be more open minded, don't be scared to not believe in God because you can always start believing again the older you getl.. isn't that right syzygy? there is no such thing as heaven or hell btw.. f***ing dumb as **** |
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 6:28pm |
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Well i guess we should just all believe whatever you say then? You are very convincing! I mean youve completely convinced me that your the single most ignorant clown that ive ever heard of! 4 real though, nice try but your petty clown sh1t wont work here just another clown that aint funny.
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 6:31pm |
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it only tries to kill us every chance it gets with earthquakes, tsunamis etc :o |
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TuNA FISh
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 6:35pm |
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i wasn't trying to be funny and stop saying clown over and over again because we all know that you are copying pawweezy
syzygy, if you had a 15 minute conversation with me in real life you would be blown away. you take the internet too seriously.. take a step back, breathe, and go back to jacking off. |
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TuNA FISh
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 6:37pm |
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LMAO i said something similar and he corrected himself.. he was basically talking about how everything lives off each other in some form or another.. like honey bees pollinating plants, ants and decomposition, etc. |
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 6:50pm |
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Clown and scrub are my words not Weezy's you say i would be blown away? lmao thats hillarious ![]() I take the internet to serious? you really never know what your talking about do ya? you hop in a thread try to be contraversial and end up just looking like another clown no big deal though. |
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 7:06pm |
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you are the one who looks like a clown. read my posts and then read yours.. i would be embarrassed if i were you. no one likes you and almost every single one of your posts end up insulting someone
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