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    Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 7:29pm
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Zeitgeist is nothing more than a fabricated piece of ****. I have seen the entire video over a year ago. They want to make an arguement based on a blantant lie. No one knows when Jesus Christ, Yahshua Ha'Mashiach was born. THe Catholic Church, that God forsaken countfeit version of chrisitianity labeled 12/25 as the brithday of Christ so make the pagan's happy because it was near the day (or i think it was actually on the same day of a pagan holiday) of a pagan holiday. All of those religions have many stories of their own. But there is no ancient text or tablet that supports those claims of ''Born by a virgin woman, cruxified, died, rescurrected 3 days later''. Those douche bags who help create that movie think that THEY themselve's come from another Star constellation and are here to send us the message (us on earth) that the [Insert Alien Race Name] are coming to refine us as a race. Jesus Christ, Yah'Shua Ha'Mashiach is the only man to be birth by a virgin mother, to be cruxified, and ressurect three days later.

And the Da Vinci code is aboslute bull**** as well. They want to base their book and movie's off of the Nag Hammadi text which is the oldest source of the Gnostic Gospels. But even in there. THere is aboslutely NO WHERE to be found that speaks of Jesus, Yahshua being married to Mary and having children. So bluntly put, its a fabricated story by abunch of foolish men. And even to add insult to injury, the Nag Hammadi text and the gnostic religion didn't start to form until 150 A.D. and there written word was not finished till after that. The Synostic Gospels in the Bible were finished in 50 A.D. No scholar will go past 70 A.D. Because you see Peter, Paul, John, Mark, and Luke are already qouting word's from another written book in theirs. So for something to be qouted, it must have a source to be qouted from.

I am so sick of people wanted to look at a piece of information without testing it's waters. ''Oh hey this guy with a plak on his wall that says he is a verified Scholar said XYZ''. And you are foolish enough to believe anything because he ''claims'' to be a doctor. And you are too damn lazy to search for the truth yourself.

actually, in my ancient civilizations class we learned about a lot of those similarities... my teacher knew what he was talking about too... we spent a lot of time on Mesopotamia which historians believe is the cradle of civilization.. i think it is the most interesting time period.

they didn't even mention the da vinci code in zeitgeist............
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anyways, everything he talked about in Zeitgeist  you can look up for yourself on the internet.. you are calling him a liar yet you have no proof and he actually has facts. i don't see how you can call him a liar when what he said was true.. i think if you would have actually watched the 3 videos i posted you would understand better. all you got was jesus being born on december 25 and in the VERY beginning of the second video they have a picture of da vinci's last supper painting which you automatically assumed was talking about the da vinci code..... lol...

edit: i mean seriously? a blatant lie? wtf have you been smokin... don't lie to yourself lol look up the information

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wow cant believe this thread went this far, guess nobody heard me when i said "bla bla bla bullsh1t bla bla bla"
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Zeitgeist is nothing more than a fabricated piece of ****. I have seen the entire video over a year ago. They want to make an arguement based on a blantant lie. No one knows when Jesus Christ, Yahshua Ha'Mashiach was born. THe Catholic Church, that God forsaken countfeit version of chrisitianity labeled 12/25 as the brithday of Christ so make the pagan's happy because it was near the day (or i think it was actually on the same day of a pagan holiday) of a pagan holiday. All of those religions have many stories of their own. But there is no ancient text or tablet that supports those claims of ''Born by a virgin woman, cruxified, died, rescurrected 3 days later''. Those douche bags who help create that movie think that THEY themselve's come from another Star constellation and are here to send us the message (us on earth) that the [Insert Alien Race Name] are coming to refine us as a race. Jesus Christ, Yah'Shua Ha'Mashiach is the only man to be birth by a virgin mother, to be cruxified, and ressurect three days later.

And the Da Vinci code is aboslute bull**** as well. They want to base their book and movie's off of the Nag Hammadi text which is the oldest source of the Gnostic Gospels. But even in there. THere is aboslutely NO WHERE to be found that speaks of Jesus, Yahshua being married to Mary and having children. So bluntly put, its a fabricated story by abunch of foolish men. And even to add insult to injury, the Nag Hammadi text and the gnostic religion didn't start to form until 150 A.D. and there written word was not finished till after that. The Synostic Gospels in the Bible were finished in 50 A.D. No scholar will go past 70 A.D. Because you see Peter, Paul, John, Mark, and Luke are already qouting word's from another written book in theirs. So for something to be qouted, it must have a source to be qouted from.

I am so sick of people wanted to look at a piece of information without testing it's waters. ''Oh hey this guy with a plak on his wall that says he is a verified Scholar said XYZ''. And you are foolish enough to believe anything because he ''claims'' to be a doctor. And you are too damn lazy to search for the truth yourself.
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your the one changing the subject and you just avoided my questions? lol

exact science is the whole point but you have no answer.

you gave an exaple about how love is accualy a chemical reaction in the brain righht? well since you made that statement i figured you might know what effects a drug like meth has on the brain and what kind of damage it does if used long enough. your answer is you have no idea?

e=mc2 is an easy one yet you couldn't answer it either?

thats like insulting a gunfighter, then going to the gun fight with an empty gun.

it just don't make any sence?






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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

run away now Tuna like always lol

your not just going off to research my questions are you?

actually, i'm about to watch a movie on netflix... why do you keep avoiding those videos? quit changing the subject. i want to see what you have to say about christianity after you watched the vids lol.
plus your questions aren't even worthy of a reply... you seriously asked me if e=mc2 was a math formula....... and how should i know what meth does to the brain?? i don't give a f*** and it has nothing to do with what we are talking about unless you are saying God smokes meth and that would be awesome
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run away now Tuna like always lol

your not just going off to research my questions are you?
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here's the third one... now i'm getting offline to go see a movie.


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is anyone going to comment on those videos XD
probably too scared to watch them
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i'm over that now. i don't think you can disprove anything in those videos i posted lol.....................................

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FAIL! Tuna your probably just not the sharpest tool in the shed.

to assume i know nothing about science after my posts on Einstein and Hawkins is? well lets just say betond belief lol

Tuna try to answer these questions for me since you know so much.

is there such a thing as exact science?

is e=mc2 a math formula? and if so explain its rellivance.

what happens to the brain when someone uses meth and what is the result of sustained use?      i chose this question because of your theory on wether GOD is capable of love.



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i'm interested in what you guys have to say about that video
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start watching at 3:20 min

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I find it funny that the points being argued are between instant gratification vs. long term contention. Keep at it, this is interesting.
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

lol thousands try to disprove a theory? so if you can't disprove something that makes it a fact in your book?

i can't prove i married my wife. so we must not really be married right? yea i know that sounded sarcastic lol

since your a non believer i don't really expect you to bother to try to understand religion. but to say GOD is uncapable of love based on the way us humans love? come on you need to try to do better then that lol

im accualy encouraged by both sides of the discussion. whether you guys are religios or not atleast you know something about the subject.

which tells me that there's hope.




syzygy, you know nothing about science...............
and you're comparison to what i posted was stupid.. it didn't fit at all..
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in school people would get extra credit for staying and doing extra work, even if the work they did was wasn't good

one thing i wonder is will all the different Preachers/Ministers get extra credit for there sermons even if there sermons are wrong and ridicilious?

you know the old A for effort deal

i mean some of them sound like they can't wait to see wrong do'ers sent straight to hell lol

those ones also seem to love the word DAMNATION!!! lol

it is hard for a intelligent person to listen to some of the crap that some of them come up with.

in current times with young people getting more knowledgable because of tech. Preachers/Ministers need to learn how to relate to them and not sound like some bible beating nut case.

i'll admit i can't just walk in any church and be able to sit and listen to everything some Preacher/Minister has come up with. some of it is just totally off the wall.

which probably creates alot of doubt in a knowledgable, intelligent young persons mind.

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I've been a firm believer in Occam's razor, and it worked out pretty good so far!
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Its immaterial what God looks like. People need to visualise God, the Devil or Jesus to personify them but they are representations of their ideas. God the omnipotent creator of all things, master of the universe, God the creator of life but succumbing to the laws of the universe or simply God the giver of life are some that spring to mind. They explain why things are the way they are to the individual.
There are many versions of God idealistically so when and how questions are insignificant - more importantly u may ask why? The science vs God debate is fascinating but littered with paradoxes, some eminent scientists were/are also religious - Darwin for one. Science is now giving us the answers that religion once gave us, with less individual interpretation from so-called men elected by God, so its understandable to believe in scientific truth. Its more easy to corroborate and seemingly less corruptible. The greeks believed in Gods - Polytheism - because it gave them reasons for their fortunes/fate. Who knows some of em may have been bald I dunno. 
For me science tells us more about the world around us and the worlds outside of ours. It is not there to challenge or support the existence of God or Gods so u can choose both like Darwin did. If religious belief improves you as a person, for the good, then its a plus. Same can be said of anything so I suppose u don't need religion. And u don't even have to live good - all are individual choices we make or are influenced to make. I choose my path u choose urs - its all good! I sound like some religious nut on here but thats far from it, I hardly go to church lol. I like the way Mr Paweezy lights the blue torch paper and runs away observing from a distance - r u not entertained?
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Lest we forget that the Greeks believed in roughly the same thing, but we laugh at them.   Imagine in 500 years how we look at religions!
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"And if there is a God, it is nothing like what anyone has ever thought of! " because?
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lol thousands try to disprove a theory? so if you can't disprove something that makes it a fact in your book?

i can't prove i married my wife. so we must not really be married right? yea i know that sounded sarcastic lol

since your a non believer i don't really expect you to bother to try to understand religion. but to say GOD is uncapable of love based on the way us humans love? come on you need to try to do better then that lol

im accualy encouraged by both sides of the discussion. whether you guys are religios or not atleast you know something about the subject.

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lol... you do know that after a theory is created literally an army of scientists try to disprove it, right? like thousands.. once they can't disprove something it gains like street credit and is accepted. oh and another thing, in order for god to love he would have to be human and he would have to be alive. all love is is endorphins <not sure how to spell it, im burning my ass up outside> being released in your brain which you eventually become addicted to which is why you feel sad when you break up or get broken up with or when a loved one dies. bam suckas
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