Religion and Politics

i believe the United States is exceptional as a country.. its by no means perfect, but its a place that human rights and freedom have become the standard, and not the exception.. its a place where you can live in peace as long as you obey the law..

Just like Spain, France, Italy, England, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, Australia, Canada and Finland!

its a place where your opertunity's are endless if your smart, and willing to work hard.. no matter where your from, what your beliefs are or the color of your skin you can suceed in America! Obama proved that! i don't agree with Obama on policy, but i have emence respect for what he achieved by becoming President! he's a testimate to what anyone can achieve in America..

Isn't stating it like that implying there is a difference between him and anyone else in the first place?

Nah I didn't take/mean offense or anything, just saying that on those merits it's not really that exceptional :P

By the other thing I merely meant that if someone having a coloured skin is even worth mentioning, appearantly it's not a completely irrelevant factor yet :P

Originally posted by Iuckshot Nah I didn't take/mean offense or anything, just saying that on those merits it's not really that exceptional :P By the other thing I merely meant that if someone having a coloured skin is even worth mentioning, appearantly it's not a completely irrelevant factor yet :P

in an event like the first mixed race president, of course skin color was mentioned because it was a first, but the fact that he was elected shows how far this country has come, and that skin color doesn't matter. im sure skin color is still relivant to some people, but there efforts to spread that ignorant ideology will be much more difficult now as a result of his election

if your stuck on that view then it wont do much good for me to explain any further

So let me recap the previous 29 pages:

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc nothing to add ay Pinn? well thanks for the recap :)

Originally posted by ax412 Originally posted by Pendulum Originally posted by ax412 lol sizzle I don't like the term but atheist don't care anything about the Bible, however they do care about what they feel is missing in life, which is why we will d w.e it takes to fill that void.  only thing they need to hear is Jesus is Lord or Jesus Loves em. Aha If you are raised a certain way , or believe in certain things that do not harm other's in your love for the lord , then be proud of it. But telling someone else about Jesus and his religous symbolism is only a matter of opinion. To put it bluntly you respect Jesus for his message and that he is the son of god. I respect Jesus in the sense that he was a man trying to better his fellow man and lived as a prophet only. My point is that you will never win an arguement about religion, the key is to simply acknowledge someone else's opinion and not belittle them for it. i agree, you'll never hear me talk trash

In a certain, of course unharmful way, you still do. You even did above, you belittle us. You say there's something missing in our life, and provide your point of view as the answer. No hard feelings tho.  

it seems that people see conflict in every discussion, so they just label every discussion an arguement. thats not the case though.

all people are created equil by GOD. meaning every man and woman is just as important and special as the next. religion is an individuals relationship with GOD by his or hers own choice. were not born into a certain relogion or forced to worship GOD.

choosing not to believe in GOD is also choosing not to have a relationship with GOD. which is an individuals right of choice. choosing to be a non believer doesn't make the individual any less important or special. a non believer may choose to believe in GOD at some point in his or her life.

Christianity has 10 camandments. *Thou Shout Not Kill* apply's to everyone in every situation! taking a life is forbidden without exception! there's absolutely no doubt in my mind about that! how many peaceful people have killed or died for the wrong reason? history is littered with wrongful death. why conflict and hate? why not understanding, forgivness and love?

people aren't evil! its Satan and his minions decieving, influencing and minipulating people! Satan is acually the biggest pu'ssy that has ever existed! his cowardess is legendary! If i go to hell? the first thing im going to do is kick his candy ass and turn hell into a giant golf course :)

Originally posted by Hey_Look_its_Trendy Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc all people are created equil by GOD. apparently not, some of us can spell.

lmao good one Trendy :)

Most people don't get to choice their religion.. Do you think we don't know about christianity or something? Everyone responding to you has heard your argument before. I think it boils down to you being scared to think for yourself. Of course you aren't going to admit it but it's true. If you weren't scared then you would do your own research on the subject. Read about the history of religion. Those people were more passionate about their beliefs then anyone alive today. They took it very seriously. Why? Because they were scared. It was their attempt to explain what they couldn't explain because they were limited to their technology just like today. It was an intelligent ad rational attempt by early man to explain the universe. We still need religion in our society today because we are limited by our technology to explain the universe. Answers to questions such as why thebig bang occured in the first place would radically change our views on religion. Most likely or universe was created within a black hole but we still need more information on that subject. I'm sure in the next 100 years we will be well on our way to understanding the cosmos. We arejust limited by our technology just like mankind was 5000 years ago. Who knows, there couldhave been a creator, but it's definitely not the same creator from the Christian religion or any other religion thought up on planet earth. I'm not trying to change your views because it's something you have to figure out on your own.

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc  the first thing im going to do is kick his candy ass and turn hell into a giant golf course :)

What a co-incidence: in my case (with my hopeless golf skills) any golf course i'm in, turns in to giant hell

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by TX2k7 Originally posted by syzygy people aren't evil! its Satan and his minions decieving, influencing and minipulating people! Satan is acually the biggest pu'ssy that has ever existed! his cowardess is legendary! as i understand it, satan merely provides the temptation for evil, in the end its still our choice...so ull forgive me when i say that sounds like the biggest cop-out not to take responsibility for our own actions. have you heard of someone being posessed? Satan and his minions can go way beyond temptation. taking responsibility for your own actions and asking for forgivness is a part of Christianity. i was stating that by nature man isn't evil, and that its Satan that wants man to do evil so he can obtain there soul upon there death.

Originally posted by Pendulum Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by TX2k7 Originally posted by syzygy people aren't evil! its Satan and his minions decieving, influencing and minipulating people! Satan is acually the biggest pu'ssy that has ever existed! his cowardess is legendary! as i understand it, satan merely provides the temptation for evil, in the end its still our choice...so ull forgive me when i say that sounds like the biggest cop-out not to take responsibility for our own actions. have you heard of someone being posessed? Satan and his minions can go way beyond temptation. taking responsibility for your own actions and asking for forgivness is a part of Christianity. i was stating that by nature man isn't evil, and that its Satan that wants man to do evil so he can obtain there soul upon there death.   Syszygy do you believe in the story of Adam and Eve?

i believe in Jesus!

Originally posted by Pendulum Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Pendulum Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by TX2k7 Originally posted by syzygy people aren't evil! its Satan and his minions decieving, influencing and minipulating people! Satan is acually the biggest pu'ssy that has ever existed! his cowardess is legendary! as i understand it, satan merely provides the temptation for evil, in the end its still our choice...so ull forgive me when i say that sounds like the biggest cop-out not to take responsibility for our own actions. have you heard of someone being posessed? Satan and his minions can go way beyond temptation. taking responsibility for your own actions and asking for forgivness is a part of Christianity. i was stating that by nature man isn't evil, and that its Satan that wants man to do evil so he can obtain there soul upon there death.   Syszygy do you believe in the story of Adam and Eve? i believe in Jesus!   well if you believe in stories aobut the bible and jesus , then you would see that TX is talking about how Eve was tempted with an apple, satan didnt force her to have it.

i took TX's as meaning in general, he didn't even give an example. your assuming Eve is what he was talking about, but i didn't make that same assumption. so why would i mention Eve in my response to TX?