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    Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 7:45pm
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Mass being the total amount of Matter in an object and staying the same no matter where the object is at, and Matter increasing in a moving object suggests that objects collect and trap extra matter when moving and release only the extra matter as they slow. or matter expands retracts.
made me read into it a little and appearantly there's a difference between mass in rest and relativistic mass, which i didnt know aboutwhen i said an objects mass is determined by its density i just talked about rest masshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_in_special_relativitysome info about it, topic didnt interest me enough to read it allit mentioned about the mass depending on the frame of referencefor the object itsself, its mass doesnt changefor other frames of reference, a net worth of kinetic energy is involvedit doesnt 'trap' mass, i think energy is added into the mass (not sure if thats what you meant)


you still have to realise that its not yet known 4 sure what causes mass. so saying 4 sure wether extra matter is collected and trapped while an object is moving or the existing matter expands while the object is moving is just impossible atm.

it may be known soon though?   
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if you don't age and your cells dont deterriorate, are we assuming mass murders? D:


not necessarily mass xD

the closer you are to a large object the slower time goes. the further away you are the faster time goes.

and then there's condenced matter and matter loss that may have something to do with age'ing imo

think of yourself as a body or object with condenced mass when your small. then imagine yourself leaking matter as a certain amount of time goes by. and now think of age'ing being caused by loss of matter.

could loss of matter cause cell degeneration?

im not a phycisist you tell me xD

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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Mass being the total amount of Matter in an object and staying the same no matter where the object is at, and Matter increasing in a moving object suggests that objects collect and trap extra matter when moving and release only the extra matter as they slow. or matter expands retracts.

made me read into it a little and appearantly there's a difference between mass in rest and relativistic mass, which i didnt know about
when i said an objects mass is determined by its density i just talked about rest mass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_in_special_relativity
some info about it, topic didnt interest me enough to read it all

it mentioned about the mass depending on the frame of reference
for the object itsself, its mass doesnt change
for other frames of reference, a net worth of kinetic energy is involved
it doesnt 'trap' mass, i think energy is added into the mass (not sure if thats what you meant)
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They leave you a choice in China, choosing only one kid gives you HUGE bonuses though (as in money and I think maybe even more like a workplace or place to live but not sure about that).

Yes, if you are Han Chinese ethnic group, which constituites 92% of mainland. There are exemptions for more children with the economic benefits if you are ethnic minority or rural farmer.
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Mass being the total amount of Matter in an object and staying the same no matter where the object is at, and Matter increasing in a moving object suggests that objects collect and trap extra matter when moving and release only the extra matter as they slow. or matter expands retracts.

since gravity and speed are both factors in try'n to measure an objects mass, a proper scale or formula is needed to measure an objects mass.

the standard model of partical physics thinks that mass is caused by higgs field, physicists are experimenting at Cern with a large harden cillider to try to find the higgs field. but atm what gives an object its mass is still unknown for sure.
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if you don't age and your cells dont deterriorate, are we assuming mass murders? D:
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They leave you a choice in China, choosing only one kid gives you HUGE bonuses though (as in money and I think maybe even more like a workplace or place to live but not sure about that).
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Originally posted by Iuckshot

if you'd stop the age-ing process and only have 1 child per couple... does that mean those children cannot go out and meet people? because otherwise you'd still keep expanding
 
stoping the age-ing process doesn mean immortality ... people would be looking good longer
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in China they already do so ... I think (talking about the only child)

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if you'd stop the age-ing process and only have 1 child per couple... does that mean those children cannot go out and meet people? because otherwise you'd still keep expanding
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indeed but then again we could fix some laws like 1 kid by couple only

 
 


that would be intrusion, and besides there's to many laws already

maybe spade or nutered lol
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indeed but then again we could fix some laws like 1 kid by couple only

 
 
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Originally posted by valjohn

"the Mass increases when a body or object is in motion and gets bigger and bigger the faster the body or object goes"
 
if that is true, stop running then Tongue
 
 
Really, I have no idea ... I've always hated physical science


the theory's aren't all that complicated because most of the work has already been done.

how we age could be applied and we could concievably stop the aging process. but that would lead to an over populated planet xD





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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

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the gravity force ?


hm? great guess. if Mass increases when a body or object is in motion and gets bigger and bigger the faster the body or object goes. what does that say if gravity is the answer? hahaha

dont remember all, but isnt it the density of an object? combined with gravity makes for x kilograms or whatever
and the reason it'll speed up is the momentum of the object
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"the Mass increases when a body or object is in motion and gets bigger and bigger the faster the body or object goes"
 
if that is true, stop running then Tongue
 
 
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Originally posted by valjohn

the gravity force ?


hm? great guess. if Mass increases when a body or object is in motion and gets bigger and bigger the faster the body or object goes. what does that say if gravity is the answer? hahaha
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

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evolution is still in question atm even though many scientists do think there's enough evidence to support it.tools found on Flores island have been dated back to 1 million years ago? homo sapiens existed 1 million years ago? what does that do to most models for evolution?chimp-homo sapien-neanderthal-homo sapien? evolve-de evolve-evolve? the dates still don't add up yet imo
Do you have some source for this? There are 1,321,369 peer reviewed Journal Articles that include evolution - from a quick search on a public library. http://ncsu.summon.serialssolutions.com/search?s.cmd=removeFacetValueFilter(SubjectTerms,evolution)&s.fvf%5B%5D=SubjectTerms,evolution,&s.fvf%5B%5D=ContentType,Journal+Article,&s.pn=1&s.q=Evolution If you pick up intelligent design, you can have your faith and science too!


i don't just pick anything Han Fei. when looking for the truth you have to concider the source. there's strong motivations to prove religion is wrong! and im talking about science not religion here! there are many scientists looking for ways to discredit religion! “when religion is a thing of the past”? ‹--thats clear bias and it doesn't belong in science period!

that being said everyone needs to guard against false facts that are motivated by any kind of bias in science. BIAS is the enemy of science and logic!

the true facts about human evolution are still in question at this time imo. what if they dig up an older skeleton in lets say France next week? my point in that is unless the whorld is dug up we can't say for sure what all the facts are.

1 million year old tools? there's always someone who knows something that you don't know, and that goes for all of us.
Yo sry to pick up this post again, but now you said how important good sources are, although didn't provide any still.
I was ( and I think HanFei also) just interested to see a source, maybe an article about it so we can picture ourselves how reliable that source is.
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maybe i shouldn't of used religion as an example xD there's already a lot of history of bias on both sides science and religion lol

Mass is the amount of Matter in a Body or Object. hahaha

We don't yet know what gives a Body or Object its Mass? hahaha

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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Originally posted by HanFei

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

evolution is still in question atm even though many scientists do think there's enough evidence to support it.tools found on Flores island have been dated back to 1 million years ago? homo sapiens existed 1 million years ago? what does that do to most models for evolution?chimp-homo sapien-neanderthal-homo sapien? evolve-de evolve-evolve? the dates still don't add up yet imo
Do you have some source for this? There are 1,321,369 peer reviewed Journal Articles that include evolution - from a quick search on a public library. http://ncsu.summon.serialssolutions.com/search?s.cmd=removeFacetValueFilter(SubjectTerms,evolution)&s.fvf%5B%5D=SubjectTerms,evolution,&s.fvf%5B%5D=ContentType,Journal+Article,&s.pn=1&s.q=Evolution If you pick up intelligent design, you can have your faith and science too!
i don't just pick anything Han Fei. when looking for the truth you have to concider the source. there's strong motivations to prove religion is wrong! and im talking about science not religion here! there are many scientists looking for ways to discredit religion! “when religion is a thing of the past”? ‹--thats clear bias and it doesn't belong in science period!that being said everyone needs to guard against false facts that are motivated by any kind of bias in science. BIAS is the enemy of science and logic! the true facts about human evolution are still in question at this time imo. what if they dig up an older skeleton in lets say France next week? my point in that is unless the whorld is dug up we can't say for sure what all the facts are. 1 million year old tools? there's always someone who knows something that you don't know, and that goes for all of us.
I Hate when people say "science is against God" thats bull... Scientist can do there personal thing... but when it comes down to it NOTHING in science goes against Godand not even evolution, Did I say the God as cristians understand him? NOPE, a first un-caused cause, a being of higher intelegence. I think we should Be carefull of confusing the word God with the meaning religion. << I wasnt disagreing with you BTW.However the theory of evolution is flawed, and theories were made to be disproven not proven =]


first off what we hate hearing is irelevant. science is science and its not against anything except bias,dishonesty and irrationality! but if you don't already know that certain groups of scientists try to discredit religion then id have to conclude that your not very informed. like i said im talking about SCIENCE not RELIGION!!! religion is just an example of 1 of the bias's that exists.

i don't know how i could have made my points any clearer? which tells me what i already knew to be true. people listen or “READ” and as they listen or “READ” some people tend to put there own twist on what there hearing or “READING”. its sort of like poor translation. or saying to yourself this is what they really ment by that.

i was speaking on evolution and science only! religion was just an example!!!!!!!!!! lol    

are you a physicist? im not being an ass i was just wondering if anyone knows physics?

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Sick&aqua said: cold Florida evenings!
Does that even exist, is that a proven science?
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Science is no more interested in destroying religion than the Bible can explain science.  Each has it's purpose.  Let's let them coexist.

I have  new theory...

None of you actually exist.  You're all in my mind and are nothing more than an amusement I have created for myself to keep me warm on cold Florida evenings.
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Originally posted by ASHYTEBUBLExD

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Originally posted by ASHYTEBUBLExD

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Originally posted by Aquaknot

I had hoped this topic would stay on science.  There's so much fascinating information available today.  Most of which is just a few keystrokes away.  I particularly like HanFei's approach.  He never makes a post without doing his homework (no B.S. posts lacking back-up) and always provides links that I lose myself in for hours at a time.
I guess when the purpose of the thread doesn't match the title, this is what you get.
wow? trashing both threads ay? Han Fei does know his sh1t about certain science, but im telling you the that were more fascinating then anything out there in space!study's on the human brain are much more helpful and interesting to me then dark energy or blackholes.a good example would be your view of this thread. lollearning the secrets of the universe on a gaming site over a cup of coffee would be nice Aqua, but i think your just asking a little too much of us gamers my man _-)
WRONG, physics & Philosophy together discuss THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS in the universe, If we understand every level of partical physics, strings for example, we wouldn't need to know about the brain when we know why everything forms ( IE ) atoms form the way they do.String theory suggest that the vibration of the string changes what the Quark will do and therfore the atom, knowing this we could create our own atoms and mass manufacture cells and body patrs IE the brain, this is of course when we get instruments powerfull anough to interact or even see the strings. And we don't actualy have proof that the strings / membranes even exsist, we only think they do due to the equation behind it.
WRONG? lmfao! #1 “IF” can never be used to prove anything! #2 string theory is just a theory therefore its mute until proven! #3 philosofhy has nothing to do with the natural workings of the brain!#4 is a black whole or dark energy aware of its own existance? is it possible for a black whole or dark matter to figure out what i am?#5 you acually just helped me prove my point lolTHERE'S NOTHING KNOWN IN EXISTANCE THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THE HUMAN BRAIN! EXCEPT GOD
Yes there is, God is simple so he doesnt need much knowing, PARTICAL PHYSICS MAKES UP EVERYTHING, ITS THE BASE OF EVERYTHING so its alot more important than the brain.


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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

evolution is still in question atm even though many scientists do think there's enough evidence to support it.tools found on Flores island have been dated back to 1 million years ago? homo sapiens existed 1 million years ago? what does that do to most models for evolution?chimp-homo sapien-neanderthal-homo sapien? evolve-de evolve-evolve? the dates still don't add up yet imo
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i don't just pick anything Han Fei. when looking for the truth you have to concider the source. there's strong motivations to prove religion is wrong! and im talking about science not religion here! there are many scientists looking for ways to discredit religion! “when religion is a thing of the past”? ‹--thats clear bias and it doesn't belong in science period!

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the true facts about human evolution are still in question at this time imo. what if they dig up an older skeleton in lets say France next week? my point in that is unless the whorld is dug up we can't say for sure what all the facts are.

1 million year old tools? there's always someone who knows something that you don't know, and that goes for all of us.

I Hate when people say "science is against God" thats bull... Scientist can do there personal thing... but when it comes down to it NOTHING in science goes against God
and not even evolution, Did I say the God as cristians understand him? NOPE, a first un-caused cause, a being of higher intelegence. I think we should Be carefull of confusing the word God with the meaning religion. << I wasnt disagreing with you BTW.
However the theory of evolution is flawed, and theories were made to be disproven not proven =]
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