SCIENCE

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by ASHYTEBUBLExD Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Aquaknot I had hoped this topic would stay on science.  There's so much fascinating information available today.  Most of which is just a few keystrokes away.  I particularly like HanFei's approach.  He never makes a post without doing his homework (no B.S. posts lacking back-up) and always provides links that I lose myself in for hours at a time. I guess when the purpose of the thread doesn't match the title, this is what you get. wow? trashing both threads ay? Han Fei does know his sh1t about certain science, but im telling you the that were more fascinating then anything out there in space!study's on the human brain are much more helpful and interesting to me then dark energy or blackholes.a good example would be your view of this thread. lollearning the secrets of the universe on a gaming site over a cup of coffee would be nice Aqua, but i think your just asking a little too much of us gamers my man _-) WRONG, physics & Philosophy together discuss THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS in the universe, If we understand every level of partical physics, strings for example, we wouldn't need to know about the brain when we know why everything forms ( IE ) atoms form the way they do.String theory suggest that the vibration of the string changes what the Quark will do and therfore the atom, knowing this we could create our own atoms and mass manufacture cells and body patrs IE the brain, this is of course when we get instruments powerfull anough to interact or even see the strings. And we don't actualy have proof that the strings / membranes even exsist, we only think they do due to the equation behind it. WRONG? lmfao! #1 “IF” can never be used to prove anything! #2 string theory is just a theory therefore its mute until proven! #3 philosofhy has nothing to do with the natural workings of the brain! #4 is a black whole or dark energy aware of its own existance? is it possible for a black whole or dark matter to figure out what i am? #5 you acually just helped me prove my point lol THERE'S NOTHING KNOWN IN EXISTANCE THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THE HUMAN BRAIN! EXCEPT GOD

Yes there is, God is simple so he doesnt need much knowing, PARTICAL PHYSICS MAKES UP EVERYTHING, ITS THE BASE OF EVERYTHING so its alot more important than the brain.

Damn you HanFei I was gonna ask for a source. :D

Holy jumping jews for Jesus that was good, just what I need this morning.

Originally posted by Syzygy since you seem to be bothered by some of my posts?

bothered? not at all, i haven't taken anythn personal here....i was just agreeing with Aqua. and i have added to this discussion, u remember our chat about light & time :)

we need more stuff like that n wat hanfei posts up

as a side note: Aqua, LOL at ur profile title xD

Originally posted by Blackfang when they say evolution are they telling me that an organism finds a way to add new information to its genetic makeup? or does the organism simply readjust what it already has.

I happens without choice or preference of the organism.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation

Originally posted by HanFei Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc WRONG? lmfao! #1 “IF” can never be used to prove anything! #2 string theory is just a theory therefore its mute until proven! #3 philosofhy has nothing to do with the natural workings of the brain!#4 is a black whole or dark energy aware of its own existance? is it possible for a black whole or dark matter to figure out what i am?#5 you acually just helped me prove my point lolTHERE'S NOTHING KNOWN IN EXISTANCE THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THE HUMAN BRAIN! EXCEPT GOD 2) See moot http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/moot 3) See Ontology http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Ontology

iq is now in question

Originally posted by Blackfang when they say evolution are they telling me that an organism finds a way to add new information to its genetic makeup? or does the organism simply readjust what it already has.

i was terrible at this subject at school but ill try, i think it was somethign like

because of the way ie humans reproduce, theres a large gene-poul (whatever it is in english), with different possible combinations
individuals have genetic mutations for several reasons, i think almost every individual had a lot of mutations in their DNA (where the structure of DNA is changed from what it was) - and although by far not always it comes to expression, when it does it doesnt have to be a disadvantage
if this mutation would bring an advantage for the individual, ie giving a giraffe a longer neck, it would have more food as it can now reach the trees, and the giraffe'd have a larger chance of survival
if the gene(s) responsible could then spread into the gene poule all the specimins with this advantage could live longer and reproduce more, and it can spread like that throughout the population

.. yeah maybe someone who's better at the subject should explain

Originally posted by HanFei Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy 1) ...not all animals are as socially adept (tigers live an almost solitary existence) but they evolve too. 2) If evolution is responsible for all the good things you posted then is it also responsible for the bad ones too? 3) If there is no real reason for love then are u saying that evolution introduces things without any real reason? 4) I think everything is science is proven to have a purpose. Laws and processes do [have purpose.] 1) Biological evolution does not require social groups. Populations of organisms without brains, having neural nets or no neurons, exhibit evolution over time. 2) Evolution is:       "any change in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next.” Helena Curtis and N. Sue Barnes, Biology, 5th ed. 1989. -AND-       “Biological evolution ...is change in the properties of populations of organisms that transcend the lifetime of a single individual.” Douglas J. Futuyma in Evolutionary Biology, 1986.       Evolution is simply the change in a genetic system both now and over time with respect to the properties of those systems. Whether these traits are good/bad is contingent on the perspective of the viewer. 3) I don't understand. 4) If by purpose, you mean reason for being, see "causal systems." If by purpose, you mean ramification, then of course; everyone is in agreement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_system

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc WRONG? lmfao! #1 “IF” can never be used to prove anything! #2 string theory is just a theory therefore its mute until proven! #3 philosofhy has nothing to do with the natural workings of the brain!#4 is a black whole or dark energy aware of its own existance? is it possible for a black whole or dark matter to figure out what i am?#5 you acually just helped me prove my point lolTHERE'S NOTHING KNOWN IN EXISTANCE THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THE HUMAN BRAIN! EXCEPT GOD

2) See moot http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/moot
3) See Ontology http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Ontology

Originally posted by ASHYTEBUBLExD Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Aquaknot I had hoped this topic would stay on science.  There's so much fascinating information available today.  Most of which is just a few keystrokes away.  I particularly like HanFei's approach.  He never makes a post without doing his homework (no B.S. posts lacking back-up) and always provides links that I lose myself in for hours at a time. I guess when the purpose of the thread doesn't match the title, this is what you get. wow? trashing both threads ay? Han Fei does know his sh1t about certain science, but im telling you the that were more fascinating then anything out there in space!study's on the human brain are much more helpful and interesting to me then dark energy or blackholes.a good example would be your view of this thread. lollearning the secrets of the universe on a gaming site over a cup of coffee would be nice Aqua, but i think your just asking a little too much of us gamers my man _-) WRONG, physics & Philosophy together discuss THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS in the universe, If we understand every level of partical physics, strings for example, we wouldn't need to know about the brain when we know why everything forms ( IE ) atoms form the way they do.String theory suggest that the vibration of the string changes what the Quark will do and therfore the atom, knowing this we could create our own atoms and mass manufacture cells and body patrs IE the brain, this is of course when we get instruments powerfull anough to interact or even see the strings. And we don't actualy have proof that the strings / membranes even exsist, we only think they do due to the equation behind it.

WRONG? lmfao!

#1 “IF” can never be used to prove anything!
#2 string theory is just a theory therefore its mute until proven!
#3 philosofhy has nothing to do with the natural workings of the brain!
#4 is a black whole or dark energy aware of its own existance? is it possible for a black whole or dark matter to figure out what i am?
#5 you acually just helped me prove my point lol

THERE'S NOTHING KNOWN IN EXISTANCE THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THE HUMAN BRAIN! EXCEPT GOD

“Todays scientists have substituted mathmatics for experiments, and they wander off equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation with reality.”

Nikola Telsa

reality is an individuals belief in what is real. we each have to determine what is real and what isn't, try'n to prove something is real to yourself requires total honesty, 0 bias and 100% rational thought, try'n to prove something is real to someone else requires the same, but is pointless unless they have simular knowledge and understanding of the subject.

there's nothing wrong with theory's as long as there treated as just that “theory's”, but when theory's are taken as fact without proper proof, bias is always the case. honesty, rationality and reality are always missing in those situations. but some people do take theory as fact until its disproven. and those people or situations are the ones i laugh at.

Science isn't a bad thing but it can be a very dangeruos thing! thermal nukes and deadly agents are the best example of that.





      

Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc Originally posted by Aquaknot I had hoped this topic would stay on science.  There's so much fascinating information available today.  Most of which is just a few keystrokes away.  I particularly like HanFei's approach.  He never makes a post without doing his homework (no B.S. posts lacking back-up) and always provides links that I lose myself in for hours at a time. I guess when the purpose of the thread doesn't match the title, this is what you get. wow? trashing both threads ay? Han Fei does know his sh1t about certain science, but im telling you the that were more fascinating then anything out there in space! study's on the human brain are much more helpful and interesting to me then dark energy or blackholes. a good example would be your view of this thread. lol learning the secrets of the universe on a gaming site over a cup of coffee would be nice Aqua, but i think your just asking a little too much of us gamers my man _-)

WRONG, physics & Philosophy together discuss THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS in the universe, If we understand every level of partical physics, strings for example, we wouldn't need to know about the brain when we know why everything forms ( IE ) atoms form the way they do.
String theory suggest that the vibration of the string changes what the Quark will do and therfore the atom, knowing this we could create our own atoms and mass manufacture cells and body patrs IE the brain, this is of course when we get instruments powerfull anough to interact or even see the strings. And we don't actualy have proof that the strings / membranes even exsist, we only think they do due to the equation behind it.

I had hoped this topic would stay on science.  There's so much fascinating information available today.  Most of which is just a few keystrokes away.  I particularly like HanFei's approach.  He never makes a post without doing his homework (no B.S. posts lacking back-up) and always provides links that I lose myself in for hours at a time.