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    Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 5:21pm
sizzle when you get a chance google search dr. Hilto sutton and that will answer all your bible questions on revelation
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SIZZLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 5:27pm
why do i need to google i have you my man lol

you used a bible reference Phantaci so i was just curious how you would answer my questions?

also doesn't the antichrist rebuild the temple?

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i would answer him based on what i was taught from him lol.
i have his syllabus when i get home ill look over it and then post it here.
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k but bible references wont answer all things in life. it would take one huge book to do that lol

and its Hilton Sutton xD
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Yes, NO proof, but keep defending God. There's no proof unicorns exist, but I believe in them, an you can't prove otherwise, oh, also, don't talk sh1t about unicorns, even though I can't prove they exist, I believe anyway.

Man, I thought your rants to me were some what original (albeit terrible), you spout the same trash to anyone you don't like. You are by far the biggest un-informed wind bag I've ever seen on the interwebs.

Believing the world was created by how it was wrote in the bible (any) is a showcase of absolute lack of common sense. If you use the bible as a guideline for your life, more power to you, if you go to church, I believe you to be mentally underdeveloped. Oh....most of the world believes in God? Yeah, people are dumb, ...just heard mentality.
 
you are practically considered mentally retarded. you are about as dumb as a person could be.
 
apparently you are so dumb you cant even see my point, i could careless if you dont believe in god.. alot of people dont.. i dont care that they dont believe in god either. my point is noone on this earth knows the truth so dont act like you do, how much of an asshat do you have to be not have that common sense to put that together?
 
you have no idea what they are talking about.. that its extremely easy to be an atheist and requires not an ounce of inner strength or individuality. to think that all religious people are religious because they are conforming just proves how much of a pathetic conformists you are.. people who try to specifically not conform are the biggest conformists of all.
 
people believe in god, because of strong families, because of inner strength.. because of believing in something greater and beliving in their selves. people like you chose not to believe because you never had any of this traits.. because you never had a family that did anything and they probably never had a family worth a damn either. you come from a long line of scumbags and its obvious by your childish life.. you got so upset i pulled your nerd card you completely changed the way you used this site, started posting 1/20th as frequent and 9/10s of those posts were posts about something i posted but always passive little b**** comments.. you patheticaly stalked me around the forums like a butt hurt little baby.. i was able to insult you and change your complete attitude/persona on this site.. infact im surprised to even see one of your balls has floated back down into your tiny sack with your latest response.. its to bad your just doing more of your internet asskissing because you think by defending dagon you are protecting someone who just gave you props.
 
fact of the matter is.. its obvious you view your views about religion strongly.. which is wierd for someone who doesnt believe in religion.. you must of had the ****tiest life possible up until now, and im sure it wont get any better any time soon.
 
its just a great thing that the scums of the earth and basement dwellers that you find online arent what make up all of this earth.. but i guess you are just a product of your enivroment.. your small minded goofy parents did an awful job raising you and im almost positive one of your relatives repeatedly ****d you.
 
 
 
 
You hit the nail on the head.  My uncle ****d me often.  My life sucked/sucks.  I forgot, I should know better than to argue to someone who knows everything, at all times.  Of course I have changed my attitude about how I interact with you on here, your a douchebag, and should be responded to accordingly.  So I follow you around from thread to thread huh?  Yup, I search your name for your posts and go see what kind of trouble I can start.  Also, where was I stickin' up for Bucket??   You have three things in your arsenal now, Nerd, child abuse, no life, and from what I see, you just keep recycling the same sh1t to anyone you don't like.  Change the record.
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Question for everone!  How long do you think humans have been walking the earth?  4,000,    7,000,   300,000?
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every since GOD created humans!
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every since GOD created humans!
God was floating around is space, one day said, hey, I'll create something that has to worship me, or they will be damned for eternity, so poof, created earth, then waited a few billion years to create us, then waited another 200-300,000 years to show up just conveintely in time when we developed a few languages?  You buy that?
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your blastfamous mockery isn't at all amusing! i don't feel the need to answer such ridiculious and uneducated questions for your sadistic amusement! youve proven nothing but your distain for Christianity!

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Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Question for everone!  How long do you think humans have been walking the earth?  4,000,    7,000,   300,000?
who told you how long they've been walking the earth?
and you still didnt fully address evolution.
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jeez.....conservatives think progressives want to change america to rule the world....progressives think conservatives want to give america to the corporations and let them rule...where does it end?! lol instead of arguing y the other party is bad we could agree that neither party is working for our benefit :P hehehe
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Originally posted by SP61gTSupra

Question for everone!  How long do you think humans have been walking the earth?  4,000,    7,000,   300,000?

Current archeological evidence suggests between 240,000 and 280,000.
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this is interesting lunchy read it and tell me what you think.
evolution is not fact and its not right.
neither is the big bang. ill live and die by that.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp
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Progressives don't have a party TX lol the progressive movement has nothing to do with democrat vs repulican! traditional demacrats aren't anti-the American way and wouldn't support the progressive movement!

and a New World Order or New World Government is exactly what progressives believe in! but don't take my word for it research it for yourself. its not hard to find
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this is interesting lunchy read it and tell me what you think.
evolution is not fact and its not right.
neither is the big bang. ill live and die by that.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704206804575467921609024244.html

These next 2 links contradict argument 11 in your link.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/carbon-14.htm/printable

http://evolution-101.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-are-fossils-dated.html



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it only takes one point to blow evolution out of the water as proof GOD didn't create us! even if evolution were the case? it would just mean that thats how GOD created us!
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

it only takes one point to blow evolution out of the water as proof GOD didn't create us! even if evolution were the case? it would just mean that thats how GOD created us!


If you looked at half of the references the author was quoting, they were Christian based. Which means biased.

My point of view is that science is right and evolution did occur. Yes, evolution is a theory, but it's strongly supported by science. I do believe that earth/universe was created with a guiding hand, a divine force. But not the same divine force that religion portrays. Simple as that. Look at some of the figures that Hawking points out in that article. Life on earth is very fragile. Just a little instability and that could be the end of life as we know. On our planet at least.
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Originally posted by chisox666

Originally posted by Blackfang

this is interesting lunchy read it and tell me what you think.
evolution is not fact and its not right.
neither is the big bang. ill live and die by that.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704206804575467921609024244.html

These next 2 links contradict argument 11 in your link.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/carbon-14.htm/printable

http://evolution-101.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-are-fossils-dated.html



you gotta give me a specific paragraph to read.
-_- thats like me saying half the references in your article were anti-creationist biased.
and didnt hawkings write a new book saying there is no god
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

Progressives don't have a party TX lol

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Originally posted by chisox666

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this is interesting lunchy read it and tell me what you think.
evolution is not fact and its not right.
neither is the big bang. ill live and die by that.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704206804575467921609024244.html

These next 2 links contradict argument 11 in your link.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/carbon-14.htm/printable

http://evolution-101.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-are-fossils-dated.html



you gotta give me a specific paragraph to read.
-_- thats like me saying half the references in your article were anti-creationist biased.
and didnt hawkings write a new book saying there is no god


The 1st link is an excerpt from Hawking's new book. If you're gonna read something, check that 1st link out. The following links describe carbon-14 dating, which can be used to date objects going back 60,000 years. Way before God supposedly created the earth. The earth according to Christianity and the Bible is supposed to be what, 5,000, maybe 6,000 years old? Carbon dating alone is enough to contradict the Bible view on the Earth being created. The 2nd two articles also describe how this dating process is relative in showing how old other isotopes are. These other isotopes, such as uranium and potassium, are also used for dating things much older. 

Honestly, we both know I'm wasting my time spewing out this information. If we both wanted, thanks to the invention of the internet, we could sit here and pull articles out of our a$$es all day and night contradicting one another. And none of it would change either person's opinion. I dated and Evangelical girl once before. Probably the hottest girl I've ever dated. I know how strongly Christians feel about their faith and the bible. It's very hard (near impossible I'd say) to convince them otherwise. If you or i really wanted to get to the bottom of this, we'd have to find the best, most up to date material possible (for both sides), and study it with an open mind. And then draw a logical conclusion.    

Lol!! In regards to this post, i felt compelled to find a picture of Kennerly and her sis from the twins days website. Here's a pic. She's the one in the pink on the far right. You can only see her side profile, but she looks just like her sis on the left, except a better chin. The pic was from 2004. Oh my, i miss that girl. They were the runners up for the Doublemint Twins that yearBig smile If all Evangelicals looked like her I'd convert in a heartbeat!

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2004/twinsdays/content/IMG_0717_large.html
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Originally posted by chisox666

Originally posted by Blackfang

Originally posted by chisox666

Originally posted by Blackfang

this is interesting lunchy read it and tell me what you think.
evolution is not fact and its not right.
neither is the big bang. ill live and die by that.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704206804575467921609024244.html

These next 2 links contradict argument 11 in your link.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/carbon-14.htm/printable

http://evolution-101.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-are-fossils-dated.html



you gotta give me a specific paragraph to read.
-_- thats like me saying half the references in your article were anti-creationist biased.
and didnt hawkings write a new book saying there is no god


The 1st link is an excerpt from Hawking's new book. If you're gonna read something, check that 1st link out. The following links describe carbon-14 dating, which can be used to date objects going back 60,000 years. Way before God supposedly created the earth. The earth according to Christianity and the Bible is supposed to be what, 5,000, maybe 6,000 years old? Carbon dating alone is enough to contradict the Bible view on the Earth being created. The 2nd two articles also describe how this dating process is relative in showing how old other isotopes are. These other isotopes, such as uranium and potassium, are also used for dating things much older. 

Honestly, we both know I'm wasting my time spewing out this information. If we both wanted, thanks to the invention of the internet, we could sit here and pull articles out of our a$$es all day and night contradicting one another. And none of it would change either person's opinion. I dated and Evangelical girl once before. Probably the hottest girl I've ever dated. I know how strongly Christians feel about their faith and the bible. It's very hard (near impossible I'd say) to convince them otherwise. If you or i really wanted to get to the bottom of this, we'd have to find the best, most up to date material possible (for both sides), and study it with an open mind. And then draw a logical conclusion.    

Lol!! In regards to this post, i felt compelled to find a picture of Kennerly and her sis from the twins days website. Here's a pic. She's the one in the pink on the far right. You can only see her side profile, but she looks just like her sis on the left, except a better chin. The pic was from 2004. Oh my, i miss that girl. They were the runners up for the Doublemint Twins that yearBig smile If all Evangelicals looked like her I'd convert in a heartbeat!

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2004/twinsdays/content/IMG_0717_large.html


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your blastfamous mockery isn't at all amusing! i don't feel the need to answer such ridiculious and uneducated questions for your sadistic amusement! youve proven nothing but your distain for Christianity!

As usual, you base your belief on...your belief.
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Originally posted by uc SYZYGY uc

your blastfamous mockery isn't at all amusing! i don't feel the need to answer such ridiculious and uneducated questions for your sadistic amusement! youve proven nothing but your distain for Christianity!

As usual, you base your belief on...your belief.
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Originally posted by chisox666

Originally posted by Blackfang

Originally posted by chisox666

Originally posted by Blackfang

this is interesting lunchy read it and tell me what you think.
evolution is not fact and its not right.
neither is the big bang. ill live and die by that.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704206804575467921609024244.html

These next 2 links contradict argument 11 in your link.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/carbon-14.htm/printable

http://evolution-101.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-are-fossils-dated.html



you gotta give me a specific paragraph to read.
-_- thats like me saying half the references in your article were anti-creationist biased.
and didnt hawkings write a new book saying there is no god


The 1st link is an excerpt from Hawking's new book. If you're gonna read something, check that 1st link out. The following links describe carbon-14 dating, which can be used to date objects going back 60,000 years. Way before God supposedly created the earth. The earth according to Christianity and the Bible is supposed to be what, 5,000, maybe 6,000 years old? Carbon dating alone is enough to contradict the Bible view on the Earth being created. The 2nd two articles also describe how this dating process is relative in showing how old other isotopes are. These other isotopes, such as uranium and potassium, are also used for dating things much older. 

Honestly, we both know I'm wasting my time spewing out this information. If we both wanted, thanks to the invention of the internet, we could sit here and pull articles out of our a$$es all day and night contradicting one another. And none of it would change either person's opinion. I dated and Evangelical girl once before. Probably the hottest girl I've ever dated. I know how strongly Christians feel about their faith and the bible. It's very hard (near impossible I'd say) to convince them otherwise. If you or i really wanted to get to the bottom of this, we'd have to find the best, most up to date material possible (for both sides), and study it with an open mind. And then draw a logical conclusion.    

Lol!! In regards to this post, i felt compelled to find a picture of Kennerly and her sis from the twins days website. Here's a pic. She's the one in the pink on the far right. You can only see her side profile, but she looks just like her sis on the left, except a better chin. The pic was from 2004. Oh my, i miss that girl. They were the runners up for the Doublemint Twins that yearBig smile If all Evangelicals looked like her I'd convert in a heartbeat!

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2004/twinsdays/content/IMG_0717_large.html
yeah we'd be at it forever lol.
and i read the hawkings article, and i read the carbon article.
the other one i didnt read.
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Hawkings is starting to become inconcistant with his views? which makes me question his conclusions!

just had to correct your point of view TX lol and im an independent not a concervative xD

Evolution doesn't pertain to religion or politics, and its not a very interesting subject. it is something to debate since it can't be proven or disproven.

here's an example of why i would have trouble with taking every word in the bible literally.

lets say you gave me these directions.

go 5 miles then take a right at the Mcdonalds, then go straight until you see a Tacobell, then take a left and go straight for 10 miles until you see a church then turn right at the church and go straight for 20 miles unltil you see a KFC then take a right and go 4 blocks and you'll see the *house of morons* your looking for, you can't miss it!

and instead of writing down the directions right away, i waited a while? then i wrote down your directions like this.

go 5 miles then take a right at the mcdonalds, then go straight until you see a Tacobell then take a right, and go straight for 10 miles until you see a church, then turn right at the churh and go straight for 40 miles until you see a KFC then take a left, ond go 7 blocks and you'll see the *house of morons*

then imagine my mis-directions being translated by someone that isn't an expert on translating? and also imagine people getting a hold of my mis-directions and tampering with them? also imagine more Mcdonald's, tacobell's, kfc's, and church's being built on same streets before the trip was taken?

this is not to discredit the bible! but to show non believers that you can't disprove GOD by showing something in the bible may be in correct! so its pointless to even try! the bible was written by man! then it was translated! the king james version was King James's attempt to bring Christianity back, because it had been virtually wiped out by non-believers that were destroying every bible they could find. The story of King James also leaves the impression that some things were intentionaly left out of that bible? which is why i mention possible tampering.

so what, if something were incorrect in the Bible? what moron would be ignorant enough to state that thats proof that GOD doesn't exist? or Christianity is a farse? It would take someone pretty dam stupid to claim that! but some people do seem to be STUCK ON STUPID?













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