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TuNA FISh ![]() Team QnL ![]() ![]() QnL Captain Joined: 02 Jul 2009 Location: Bham, Alabama Online Status: Offline Posts: 2994 |
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lol i read that China is even in debt, so wtf is that about? do you think we are actually going to pay china back? what would they do if we said no? not a damn thing because we could spank their ass.. you say that NUMBERS matter more than technology? if you think that then look at desert storm.. didn't Iraq supposedly have a million man army? did you know that the average american makes as much money in 1 month as the average person in china? that place is like a third world country, dude.. there are so many poor people, little girls work in sweat shops and are exposed to poisonous gases, it's overcrowded, bad water, etc... i saw on the news that there was a traffic jam in china that lasted for like 7 days! you people can say all you want, but they have nothing on the united states..
@Bain
i read that it was 2035, not 2025.. anyways that is so far away anything could happen.. we still make the most money in the world by a long shot..
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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we would **** on china, and we still have the #1 economy in the world. china will crash shortly, and we have more clout in asia then they do.. they will never be on american land even cali, our navy would destroy them.as far as nuclear war we are much more capable then china, and have the largest aresenal in the world.
china is overrated.. dont get me wrong they are the biggest threat to america along with russia.. but we would still stomp a hole in the their ass if we had to.
and we have bases in japan taiwan and south korea to do it with, those countries would side with us aswell
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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you should create a "what if" thread
personal opinion : USA it's a great country but your politicians should concentrate more on the inside problems than on the outside ones
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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personal opinion: other people should focus on their politicians and not ours ;)
also personal opinion: the world is in this together.. if you are standing on one side of the playground and watching a smaller kid load a gun to shoot you with it, you had got to be an idiot not to go over there and stop him before he had it loaded.
every country does it.. except for only the top dogs catch flak.. you see the same stuff happen on every continent, just like the saying you need money to make money.. those in power ensure they stay in power, and also ensure they neutralize threats across the world, sometimes for other countries that cant protect themselves, sometimes for themselves.
i just wish their wasnt so much propaganda against the USA.. most of you that criticze it your countries have been in every war as well.. the only thing your countries havent done is donated billions for recovery
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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coz u think that I'm focusing on your politicians ?!!!
hmmmm maybe u're right but they are puting their noses so much into other countries business that is quite impossible to ignore them
in the same time, if they didn't we couldn't even localize USA on a map
your turn
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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and u think it's ok to send your citizens fight in a war which is not even theirs? Is this worth dying for?
also, a part of the taxes u pay finances those wars ... you work hard for your money (I imagine) ... are you ok with that?, even if u know that your country could use it in a better way for its citizen's interest
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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not hard to spot the USA on a map... not sure what country you live in but if its france... the USA hasnt done anything to stick its nose in your business.. unless you are refering to saving you from utter defeat in wars. your turn?
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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freedom is worth dying for, not just the freedom of americans. and id rather see my taxes go to fighting the egotistial inhumane dictators of the world who abuse their populations then go to some welfare family that keeps popping out babies yet cant even manage to hold a job. and like i said, your countries are in the same exact wars.. you just are no where to be seen when the billions are being spent to rebuild these countries.
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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u're talking about WW2? France asked for help (and also many other countries) and everyone was grateful for that ... but as I said, they ASKED for help. Also with no interference from USA Germany would have won the war and became a powerful country, and in time, dangerous for the other countries too, including USA ... so a collaboration was a necessity
What about Iraq???
ur turn
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TuNA FISh ![]() Team QnL ![]() ![]() QnL Captain Joined: 02 Jul 2009 Location: Bham, Alabama Online Status: Offline Posts: 2994 |
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some asian guy is holding the Discovery Channel HQ hostage with a gun and they think explosives |
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smh lol
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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dont worry.. we wont get carried away.
anyhow yes the collabaration was nesscary... exact same reason why the USA is involved in other countries.. we are the leaders of the free world.. many many socialist and communist countries run by dictators despise are way of life.. america and many other countries protect the world not just their borders. with technology and weaponry as advances as it is now adays.. you cant just stick a turret gun at your border and be safe.
but yes france asked for help.. but what about when a country isnt being attacked by another country, but being attacked by the political party in power? i.e. iraqis .. 100x iraqis died by the hand of their ruthless dictator then died by the USA. i.e. Iran.. the opposition movement is completely considered taboo now because they were beaten and killed into suspression.. just like in venezuela where the media isnt even allowed to cover the opposition.. how is that fair?
should countries just be allowed to contrl their people like that? americans hold freedom very dear to them.. and to see it abused anywhere is offensive to us and we cant stand for it.
iraqis didnt ask for help because they couldnt.. just like iranian opposition cant even be mentioned on tv
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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ok, then if America cares so much about the others, how come that they never helped the Tutsi in Uganda which are killed by millions ?
The image we have about USA, is that they help as long as there is an interest for them (example : the oil in Iraq)
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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ive already had this same debate on here.. as far as oil in iraq.. is the world under the assumption that we are driving boatloads of oil back for free or something? not only are we not getting any free oil.. we are spending billions to rebuild them.. and using up alot of military and human lives on our end.
if the US has any ulterior motive with iraq.. its power in the middle east.. not oil..
as far as the uganda genocides..which are absolutely terrible..
1. the world barely noticed it happening.. infact theirs still reports surfacing every day about it.. tribal genocide and warfare is alot more low key then say iran or iraq broadcasting on live television that they want to kill israel as an example. i believe if it were to happen to that scale again and it was well known about some countries would do something about it.. mostly the USA
2. you cant discredit the USA as not wanting to help fight freedom injustices just because something happen that they werent involved in.. besides the fact that the USA isnt limitless..
3. the usa gets involved they are the bad guys.. they dont get involved they are the bad guys.. we cant win :)
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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another personal opinion (sorry I can't help it) : I think that the tutsi needed more help than the iraqians. The fact that the media didn't talked much about it doesn't mean that your leaders weren't aware of the fact that men were killed with axes in front of theit wives and kids, that women were r.aped and then savagely mutilated, that children were murdered like rabits.
anyway, who am I to judge ... I'm just an ant in an anthill
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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LOL, yep .. it is
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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the tutsis were massacred by the hutus.. you do know that france backed the hutus correct? |
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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No, I don't know ... I'm not from France
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SIZZLE ![]() Team oOPS ![]() I'm your huckle berry Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1352 |
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there is a lot of poor people in China! but that has nothing to do with it! poor people fight just as hard or harder then anyone else! so i don't get your point about that? numbers matter more then technology? who said that? lol but you don't think China has a good military and technology? China is a whole different ball game then Iraq! you aint just going to just roll your sh1t up to there shore! they have great modern subs for 1 lol and your going to haft to prtect your own shores! and that would be a first for us! its acually mind bending to even try to compehend all the legistics involved in a war that big! i don't think you realise just how many people a billion people is for 1? lol and if China is how you discribe them then how do they fk with our satalites and raise a sub up in the middle of our fleet? real third world there dude xD trust me China is on a path to becoming a country that will be pretty much unstoppable in the future! there wealth and power will be unpresedented imo they have our economy as a model to avoid some of the mistakes weve made. our debt to them gives them great leverage with us now, so how do you think its going to be in the future? lol i just hope they don't secretly have some kind of world conquest ideology for there future? if so the future isn't going to be very pretty! but like i said were not enemy's and we should make dam sure it stays that way xD |
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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syzygy you are correct about a few things.. but americas military isnt going to be overtaken as the worlds #1 power.. even with chinas "carrier killer" missles and the fact they are working on their own carriers.
also our debt is used against china as much as its used against us if not more..
china now is tied into our economy.. if we fail they fail.. we are the largest importer in the world and we also could just not pay them.
example.. some guy owes you 10k.. you can break his legs or kill him.. but you wont be seeing your money..
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valjohn ![]() Godlike Member ![]() ![]() No hearts for anyone! Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1814 |
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@ Syzygy... and here he goes with China again
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Deadaim ![]() [qM] ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1791 |
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what europeans also dont understand is.. americans arent evil like some assume.. our thoughts on your countries are they are nice places that we would live to visit or already have.. it upsets me how much propaganda europeans buy into about america being evil.. we have enemies in the world but most of them picked the USA to be their enemy |
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