Who Believes in Ghost ???

Originally posted by Hey_Look_its_Trendy Originally posted by Paw (According to the bible, correct me if im wrong please.) But "Evil" basically started when Lucifer(the devil) was cast out of heaven, Lucifer was one of God's closest angels before hand correct me if Im wrong... But God let Lucifer do what he wanted and become the Devil, God dint instantly "smite" him or anything but he let him choose what he wanted to do.... I dont know if you guys are following me but this has to do with the free will argument... If God wanted to, im pretty 100% positive he could wipe out all evil instantly, he is God, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end....(the end, which is explained in revelations the last book of the bible) and i dont think he would want to change what is written and prophesied in that book... idk im trying to sound smart haha Did you even watch the video? Free will and the "soul" have been refuted by neuroscience because they have never been demonstrated in the properties of the brain. Cognition is completely different from "free will." Also, if God possesses the ability to wipe out all evil, then why call him God? He's certainly not a benevolent God if he allows such evil to thrive, he's basically an all powerful malevolent douche-bag.

hahahhaha okay

Syzygy decent post haha, but your correct the brain is the most complex thing that we have ever discovered and tried to explain, how did all that come from one single cell? any scientific explanation makes no sense on that, obviously there is something greater out there...

and that second part was to king eternal

Originally posted by Deadaim some 2.5billion people are christian.. and there are 2billion are muslims.. apparently some doors were knocked down

Actually it's 2.1 billion Christians (33% of total population) and 1.5billion Muslims (21%). 16% of the total population are non-believers and 14% are Hindus. My point was that if any of these was so great, there would be a lot more people joining them. If only one out of three are Christians then that would seem to indicate that it's not all that its made out to be.

Originally posted by BAIN Originally posted by Deadaim some 2.5billion people are christian.. and there are 2billion are muslims.. apparently some doors were knocked down Actually it's 2.1 billion Christians (33% of total population) and 1.5billion Muslims (21%). 16% of the total population are non-believers and 14% are Hindus. My point was that if any of these was so great, there would be a lot more people joining them. If only one out of three are Christians then that would seem to indicate that it's not all that its made out to be.

real christian faith is hard to find.

the worst part about this all is... God forbid you guys die without Christ. You will have all of eternity to think about your discussions in real life and on iamgaming. You can tell the hellfire that there is no God then.
unless you've died then no athiest can ever prove that Jesus isn't Lord

and the difference between christians and nonbelievers... You guys speak off some dude's research some guy with a docrorate whom you have never met and trust his finding s are accurate and that's he's not lying.
a christian speaks off experience.
unless you've tried you don't know what your talking about.
you only know what u've been told.

Originally posted by Paw And it boggles my mind when you go outside on a beautuful day and watch the world go round and to think that people think that this all came from a random explosion(big bang theory), do you realize how stupid you sound when you try to put a scientific explantion to things that are beyond your comprehension... now your going to say, "Hey, do you know how stupid you sound when you say there is a greater supernatural being thats in control?" Look of it this way, we think there is a universe, that our galaxy exists in....but what if there are othere universes? with other races? with crazy stuff goin on that we cant even imagine because we have no knowing of it...anything goes, a supernatural being in control is just as much of an explanation for everything around us and the surrounding universe as a big bang theory because WE HAVE NO FACTS OR PROOF OF WHAT IS OUT THERE. but if your religious, you believe in what you want....its a faith, there are no facts... God gave us free will and religious free will, if there were FACTS and videos or proof prooving a religion then everyone would believe that religion, but God has given us a choice, its up to us if we choose to believe it or not...

Paw listen dude, we have proof that the big bang took place. http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0302/sky_wmap_big.jpg It's called the WMAP image, it displays all the background radiation left over from the big bang. Do a little research on your own account. I extensively look at both sides of the argument and decide which one I agree with. In this case all the evidence in EVERY area of science points away from God. Trust me, I've read the bible multiple times, it's actually one of the main reasons that caused me not to believe. I've also read many articles posted by so called religious scholars and none of them have impressed me. Do me a favor and know the facts about what you are arguing against. You are arguing from ignorance, just like a true christian.

science is backed with facts by the most brilliant minds in the world.

Originally posted by Deadaim wait that picture is what you refer to as proof? how can you prove thats background radiation left over from the big bang? even scientist bicker with eachother, barely anything in the world of science is universally accepted, with so called scholars being on completely opposite sides of the spectrum of the arguement.   believing everything you read in a science book is no better or diffrent then believing whats in the bible. you are still going on something you cant prove yourself, and most scientific experiments are such small scaled and involve so many assumptions you have to be kidding me if you consider stuff like that unrefutable.   but imo science can exist with christianity.. neither disproves the other.. i find it funny though that scifi atheists will believe in aliens that we have no proof exists.. but laugh at the thought of god existing.   bah anyhow, enjoy your free will :)

I will say this again, I don't just take everything I read as fact. I will read it, whether it be a science book or anything else, and then see what other people in that particular field have to say about it and then base my decision on all of those factors. As far as the picture, did you bother to read up on it? If so you would have already answered your own questions about it. And what the hell do you mean I can't prove something myself? Science is predicated upon testable material. If you can't test something, then it can't be scientifically studied. Scientists don't just throw theories out there and hope people choose to believe it. Every promising new theory is critically tested by an army of their peers, and trust me when I tell you that they study and test the hell out of it.

Aliens are certainly a hell of a lot more plausible to exist within our own vast universe than a supernatural being that supposedly exists outside of our own reality. You can't seriously tell me that God is more likely to exist in our own natural order than aliens. We have found multiple habitats in our own solar system that could possibly harbor life, we just don't have the technology to confirm it yet. And don't come on here and ask me what proof I have of that, look it the f*** up. You can try the Cassini space probe for starters.

Science doesn't claim to have all the answers, but it's working towards giving humans a better understanding of the world around them. "Nothing is more fateful to the progress of the human mind than to presume that our veiws of science are ultimate, that our triumphs are complete, that there are no mysteries in nature, and that there are no new worlds to conquer."- Humphrey Davy

Originally posted by Paw Oh and lets say thisWhat if Im right, and your wrong?your f***ed, you burn in hell for the rest of ETERNITY! there is no end, end is no longer a wordbut if your right and im wrong, were in the same boat, same thing that happens to you goes for me...

would a truly loving God so easily damn a non-believer (or even followers of a different faith) whos lived a moral and just life?

exactly the Bible isnt a history book.