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TuNA FISh 
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 Topic: Who Believes in Ghost ???Posted: 29 Jul 2010 at 7:41pm |
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yeah, i totally misread that part of your post haha
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puertoRICAN
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Posted: 29 Jul 2010 at 8:46pm |
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Get rayped tuna.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnAYGqjcGEE&feature=youtu.be
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the way i see it is simple, my life will only last a short time no matter how long i live
i have nothing to lose by believing, if im wrong no big deal if i chose not to believe and i was wrong eternity in hell would be never ending misery! with no escape! ever! we cant even really comprehend how long that is! a normal life span is about 65 to 80 years at best. not even a blink of an eye compared to all eternity. its an easy choice 4 me. we'll all see in the end though. |
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someone define NOT believing. because in my 25 years, i chose to live a moral life, regardless of what i believe. i chose not to believe, but rather live by moral choices. if something doesn't go my way, it's not because God didn't find me worthy, it's because i didn't work hard enough...
do i know if there is a God? absolutely not. but my instincts tell me that there is something more...
but there is one wish i have... i just wish there will be a point in the future where both science and religion can co-exist. i believe that once those barriers are broken, a new level of understanding and reason can be established. i saw this on TV once, and i had to do with the 10 commandments. i personally believe that are obsolete. when you take into consideration the harshness and lack of moral judgments people made in the past, i think they were fashioned to create a peace and at the same time instill fear. |
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If Gravity is a "P" and the Sun is an "H", it makes a FFFFFFF.
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SilverJ-17
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Great. This randomly gets bumped and becomes a religion debate again. Personally, I'm agnostic. I've never really felt victimized, even when I was still all out atheist.
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HanFei
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How so are they sad? |
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HanFei
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Below is the problem of evil:
If God exists, then God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect. If God is omnipotent, then God has the power to eliminate all evil. If God is omniscient, then God knows when evil exists. If God is morally perfect, then God has the desire to eliminate all evil. Evil exists. If evil exists and God exists, then either God doesn't have the power to eliminate all evil, or doesn't know when evil exists, or doesn't have the desire to eliminate all evil. Therefore, God doesn't exist. |
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Iv'e had couple times those hypnagogic experiences as stated here http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-hypnagogic-hallucinations.htm and they can be really scary and they ARE very realistic. A strong feeling of presence of something combined to catalepsy (paralyzed from neck down as in sleep) can be freaky - but it's only in your mind so don't worry
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SIZZLE
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lol FAIL!
there's no way of knowing what GOD accualy is. i myself don't take every word in the bible to be a fact persay. imagine 100's of people taking mental notes on events for 100's of years and passing the storys down to the next generation until someone finally writes them down. there's a human tendacy to put your own twist into a story or atleast exagerate a little. every word of the bible was written by man then translated into different languages. some words don't even translate very well. 1 example is Jesus was said to be a Carpenter but i seen where the original word acually means, someone that works with there hands, not Carpenter? another example is the king James version. they took different parts and put together there bible, they put in the parts they saw fit and left out the rest. im not saying anything in the bible is wrong! im just saying parts of it might not be completely accurate? BUT that doesn't mean that GOD or our religion is false. as for how powerful GOD is? no one knows the answer to that! some people blame GOD for every negative that happens in there life? some bible beaters think they should be amune to everything negative in life but thats not the case obviousely. i can't tell you what to believe and i would not even try because its your choice but you shouldn't use logic to try to disprove GOD or the bible because if there is a GOD he's wiser then us to a degree that there's no scale for! that much is obvious! i would only suggest 1 thing to everyone who reads this! if your unsure what to believe then atleast try to speak to GOD atleast once. you can do it in the privacy of your room it doesn't matter where just try then see how you feel about it. Choosing GOD isn't a hard decision but i personaly believe its the biggest decision in life. no need for a debate though because he gives us all a choice! |
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That makes absolutely no sense man. The answer lies with the concept of FREE WILL and misunderstanding of it. Free will is the most loving act of all and God is all love. We know that forced love is not real love. It's like forcing someone to marry someone at the altar. Now, is that real love? Of course it isn't. So now let's go back to the answer. In order for God to stop all evil, he would have to interfere with one's own will. What if someone wanted to commit murder by their own free will? If God stopped them, He would then be violating His own love for us and His gift of Free Will. Let's take it a step back further- which evil then should God stop: some of it or all of it? Evil is evil no matter what shape, form, or degree including an evil thought. Evil actions are born from evil thoughts. In order for evil to not exist, God would have to program our minds to never think evil and remove our freedom of thought. Essentially we would be nothing more that robots with only one choice available: to make the right choice only! But once again, that wouldn't make us humans and that would not be authentic love. If you cause someone to make a specific choice than that choice is no longer free. God loved us so much that he gave us a choice to love Him back or not, to believe Him so or not. |
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TuNA FISh
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evil doesn't exist though XD. religion is just a primitive way to explain the things we don't understand. once religion is a thing of the past people will start fighting over scientific theories such as the M theory and the string theory |
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bravo
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I'm just gonna link this as an explanation for the delusion of free will because Steven Pinker can explain it far better than I could ever hope to: |
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Islanders fan, huh? Team of the future I always say.
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Great post King eternal, all that was in my head i just didnt know how to word it
tuna, trendy, and hanfei.....shame on you guys haha
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evil does exist and its attempt to influence us is constant imo. religion doesn't explain everything unknown but neither does science!!!
i imagine that what we call sciene would be childs play to GOD. about like colloring with crayons. there's no way religion will ever be a thing of the past! that may be the whole point of the bible in the first place? without the bible would we even be talking about religion in 2010? probably not. that fact in itself after all these years is pretty amazing to me. i mean how has Christianity even survived this long? GOD and his bible thats how! it has been under attack nonstop from its very beggining and yet here we are still talking about. keeping the word alive is important so you even know you have a choice. its amazing when you really think about it. |
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(According to the bible, correct me if im wrong please.)
But "Evil" basically started when Lucifer(the devil) was cast out of heaven, Lucifer was one of God's closest angels before hand correct me if Im wrong... But God let Lucifer do what he wanted and become the Devil, God dint instantly "smite" him or anything but he let him choose what he wanted to do.... I dont know if you guys are following me but this has to do with the free will argument... If God wanted to, im pretty 100% positive he could wipe out all evil instantly, he is God, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end....(the end, which is explained in revelations the last book of the bible) and i dont think he would want to change what is written and prophesied in that book... idk im trying to sound smart haha
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Did you even watch the video? Free will and the "soul" have been refuted by neuroscience because they have never been demonstrated in the properties of the brain. Cognition is completely different from "free will." Also, if God possesses the ability to wipe out all evil, then why call him God? He's certainly not a benevolent God if he allows such evil to thrive, he's basically an all powerful malevolent douche-bag. |
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Islanders fan, huh? Team of the future I always say.
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And it boggles my mind when you go outside on a beautuful day and watch the world go round and to think that people think that this all came from a random explosion(big bang theory), do you realize how stupid you sound when you try to put a scientific explantion to things that are beyond your comprehension...
now your going to say, "Hey, do you know how stupid you sound when you say there is a greater supernatural being thats in control?" Look of it this way, we think there is a universe, that our galaxy exists in....but what if there are othere universes? with other races? with crazy stuff goin on that we cant even imagine because we have no knowing of it...anything goes, a supernatural being in control is just as much of an explanation for everything around us and the surrounding universe as a big bang theory because WE HAVE NO FACTS OR PROOF OF WHAT IS OUT THERE. but if your religious, you believe in what you want....its a faith, there are no facts... God gave us free will and religious free will, if there were FACTS and videos or proof prooving a religion then everyone would believe that religion, but God has given us a choice, its up to us if we choose to believe it or not...
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i have to agree with paw...... wtf?
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your an idiot, like i said the devil(lucifer) who basically started all evil by being the first one kicked out of heaven was given a choice(free will) by God, he obv chose to dwell on the earth and in hell, God gives everyone a choice, even the Devil....
Tell me how a God that gives us FREE WILL is a douche bag?
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TuNA FISh
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lol the only thing tempting me to do bad is myself! evil doesn't exist haha. syzygy, you need to watch zeitgeist. look it up and atleast watch the first 15 min, just be open minded and dont freak out ha |
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Okay I will watch Zeitgiest if you read the bible (even though ive alreadyw watched that complete BS video)
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thank u sir, but idk if you are being serious lol
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