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lol pretty good HT ... i think science is very interesting but i don't see all scientists as brilliant. anyone can go into the field of science, but that don't mean there any smarter then the next guy. although there are some that do think on a higher level then most people. i just think brilliant is quite a word to describe someone. Trendy either way you choose to believe there's no need to be bitter. you have no enemy's here. it almost sounds like religion annoys you for some reason?

Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy Originally posted by Hey_Look_its_Trendy Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy ^^because? perhaps the label 'stupid' is too strong but ikwym Trendy. It seems pointless having God communicate to his followers in an entirely unique way cos no one understands what each other is saying...the whole point of language is to communicate right, so why doesnt he communicate in the same unique language to his speakers of tongues? Now that would be something wouldn't it? What seems to be happening here is that these worshipers are experiencing something spiritual that manifests itself into 'speech' like sounds. In pentecostal churches people are touched by the spirit and convulse, faint or just act erratically/emotively/excitedly. Imo both situations are re-creating previous recorded events in the Bible or Old Testament as proof that God exists and is always with us. I think its like hypnotism people have to be susceptible and I bet an hypnotist could get people to speak in tongues thru the power of suggestion lol.  But u must understand that faith needs no rational/logical/scientific explanation, the belief in a supernatural being as creator means the conviction in the extra ordinary being totally reasonable even if it believers cannot explain it themselves. God works in mysterious ways etc. Belief is enough, it is possible because it is God's will right? Sorry, but the whole "god works in mysterious ways" and "you just have to have faith despite evidence" arguments hold absolutely no water. It's a cop out, people just use religion to explain things that they do not understand instead of taking the initiative of figuring it out. Just imagine how pathetic the world would be if we didn't have people that asked "why?" or "how?" We wouldn't have modern medicine, we would just have religious charlatans claiming they could heal you through the power of God (and mumbling in an incoherent manner without any effect). I agree with your first suggestion that speaking in tongues is BS, I simply quoted what some worshippers would say in their defence. However it doesnt matter which path you take as neither science nor religion has conclusive truth. In fact science theory is revisited and rewritten every few decades

Can religious people please stop talking out of their asses? I have not heard one single compelling argument from one of you in this thread or the other thread. Not only are all of your (meaning everyone, not just you) posts unconvincing, but the large majority are riddled with inaccuracies and false assumptions (especially about science).

 First off, what the hell are you even saying when you say "science theory is revisited and rewritten every few decades?" What exactly is scientific theory? There are hundreds of theories within the realm of science. Also, science is a constant process where scientists work to better understand the world around us. They don't just arbitrarily revisit theories just for the hell of it. If the theory works and is tested to work, then why would you go back and try to fix something that is already proven? For example, Newton's Laws of motion have no need to be revisited because they f***ing work and they certainly haven't changed since he initially published his theory in the 1600's.

Here's a tip: Think before you talk

Well Paw, you call me an Atheist is the traditional sense, but I don't believe in any God that modern religion has come up with.  Could there be a 'God' figure?  Maybe.  But I'm not going to waste my time worrying about it.   And if there is a God, it is nothing like what anyone has ever thought of! 

this has nothing to do with "god" and just shows that people are freaks.  how bout the alter boys serving the need to expell demons. give me a break its all just bull sh1t and people eat it up and buy it.  no different than psychics and all that bull sh1t.  again bla bla bla babababull sh1t, i guess whatever sells the lord to people pays best right?????????????????????

Originally posted by Hey_Look_its_Trendy Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy ^^because? perhaps the label 'stupid' is too strong but ikwym Trendy. It seems pointless having God communicate to his followers in an entirely unique way cos no one understands what each other is saying...the whole point of language is to communicate right, so why doesnt he communicate in the same unique language to his speakers of tongues? Now that would be something wouldn't it? What seems to be happening here is that these worshipers are experiencing something spiritual that manifests itself into 'speech' like sounds. In pentecostal churches people are touched by the spirit and convulse, faint or just act erratically/emotively/excitedly. Imo both situations are re-creating previous recorded events in the Bible or Old Testament as proof that God exists and is always with us. I think its like hypnotism people have to be susceptible and I bet an hypnotist could get people to speak in tongues thru the power of suggestion lol.  But u must understand that faith needs no rational/logical/scientific explanation, the belief in a supernatural being as creator means the conviction in the extra ordinary being totally reasonable even if it believers cannot explain it themselves. God works in mysterious ways etc. Belief is enough, it is possible because it is God's will right? Sorry, but the whole "god works in mysterious ways" and "you just have to have faith despite evidence" arguments hold absolutely no water. It's a cop out, people just use religion to explain things that they do not understand instead of taking the initiative of figuring it out. Just imagine how pathetic the world would be if we didn't have people that asked "why?" or "how?" We wouldn't have modern medicine, we would just have religious charlatans claiming they could heal you through the power of God (and mumbling in an incoherent manner without any effect).

Originally posted by THE_KING_ETERNAL People will always disprove, or come up with a logical explaination to things they don't understand.

Yeah it's called religion. Science works to find an answer for what it doesn't understand instead of just blindly believing something.

Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy ^^because? perhaps the label 'stupid' is too strong but ikwym Trendy. It seems pointless having God communicate to his followers in an entirely unique way cos no one understands what each other is saying...the whole point of language is to communicate right, so why doesnt he communicate in the same unique language to his speakers of tongues? Now that would be something wouldn't it? What seems to be happening here is that these worshipers are experiencing something spiritual that manifests itself into 'speech' like sounds. In pentecostal churches people are touched by the spirit and convulse, faint or just act erratically/emotively/excitedly. Imo both situations are re-creating previous recorded events in the Bible or Old Testament as proof that God exists and is always with us. I think its like hypnotism people have to be susceptible and I bet an hypnotist could get people to speak in tongues thru the power of suggestion lol.  But u must understand that faith needs no rational/logical/scientific explanation, the belief in a supernatural being as creator means the conviction in the extra ordinary being totally reasonable even if it believers cannot explain it themselves. God works in mysterious ways etc. Belief is enough, it is possible because it is God's will right?

Sorry, but the whole "god works in mysterious ways" and "you just have to have faith despite evidence" arguments hold absolutely no water. It's a cop out, people just use religion to explain things that they do not understand instead of taking the initiative of figuring it out. Just imagine how pathetic the world would be if we didn't have people that asked "why?" or "how?" We wouldn't have modern medicine, we would just have religious charlatans claiming they could heal you through the power of God (and mumbling in an incoherent manner without any effect).

^^because? perhaps the label 'stupid' is too strong but ikwym Trendy. It seems pointless having God communicate to his followers in an entirely unique way cos no one understands what each other is saying...the whole point of language is to communicate right, so why doesnt he communicate in the same unique language to his speakers of tongues? Now that would be something wouldn't it? What seems to be happening here is that these worshipers are experiencing something spiritual that manifests itself into 'speech' like sounds. In pentecostal churches people are touched by the spirit and convulse, faint or just act erratically/emotively/excitedly. Imo both situations are re-creating previous recorded events in the Bible or Old Testament as proof that God exists and is always with us. I think its like hypnotism people have to be susceptible and I bet an hypnotist could get people to speak in tongues thru the power of suggestion lol. 

christians >.>

It's really no different than cursing or yelling in a fit of anger or as a knee jerk reaction after sudden pain. The brain does not access the frontal lobes (controls cognition/language) in these cases, but instead tap into the areas of the brain that control emotion, specifically the basal ganglia and amygdala. These people are yammering on in gibberish that is a product of their sincere belief, and thus it is not a cognitive process. In no way does this prove any supernatural entities, it just proves people are stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZbQBajYnEc




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