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Greatest Heavyweight Boxer Ever?

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Poll Question: Who is your favorite or think is the best Heavyweight boxer ever?
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    Posted: 17 Jun 2010 at 7:12pm
Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy

Lol forgot where this post was! Anyway looks like the winner by unanimous decision is Muhammad Ali. Thanks to the judges Venom, Ace, Ninja_monkey, Tuna and Onemanarmy! Scorecards read 118 - 110 -  and thats being generous to Iron Mike.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TuNA FISh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2010 at 7:12pm
yeah but that's just an opinion lol. has anyone ever heard of ring magazine?
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It's an official: In 2005, Louis was named the greatest heavyweight of all time by the International Boxing Research Organization,[3] and was ranked number one on Ring Magazine's list of 100 Greatest Punchers of All Time.
 
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Lol forgot where this post was! Anyway looks like the winner by unanimous decision is Muhammad Ali. Thanks to the judges Venom, Ace, Ninja_monkey, Tuna and Onemanarmy! Scorecards read 118 - 110 -  and thats being generous to Iron Mike.
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Originally posted by Ninja_Monkey

Tyson also took a savage beating when he was in his prime from Buster Douglas, who was a nobody.


First of all, Tyson had a short week noticed when this fight ever occurred. If Tyson managed to trained at least 3 or 4 weeks, Buster Douglas would get his a ss beaten just like the other victims that Tyson punished.
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that was after he got out of jail. i know i seem like a broken record because i'm repeating myself but he was a better fighter before he went to prison. plus buster douglas fought the fight of his life and i give him props for that. every dog has his day, right? i'm not saying tyson is the best fighter of all time but he is definitely up there. he's the only fighter i wanted to vote for on this poll. i would have voted for lennox lewis but he's not on there.
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Tyson also took a savage beating when he was in his prime from Buster Douglas, who was a nobody.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TuNA FISh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2010 at 12:13am
Originally posted by Ninja_Monkey

Ali had the highest caliber of competition in the history of heavyweight boxing. Tyson had mostly low caliber competition. Ali was way too skillful and savvy to lose to a dope like Tyson. Heck, even Evander Holyfield put a beating on Tyson and we all know what Tyson had to resort to in that one.
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Ali all the way. Tyson was nothing. The only reason anyone votes for Tyson is because he's the only one that was around for you kids to remember.
you know nothing about boxing. that comment was dumb
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I'm not putting down Tysons skills, it's just he was a brawler, not a boxer. I've fought many people just like him in many a barroom brawl or organized street fights. Ali had the brain power to beat anyone put in front of him.
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Originally posted by aceoblivion

I'm not putting down Tysons skills, it's just he was a brawler, not a boxer. I've fought many people just like him in many a barroom brawl or organized street fights. Ali had the brain power to beat anyone put in front of him.
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I'm not putting down Tysons skills, it's just he was a brawler, not a boxer. I've fought many people just like him in many a barroom brawl or organized street fights. Ali had the brain power to beat anyone put in front of him.
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Originally posted by Ninja_Monkey

Ali had the highest caliber of competition in the history of heavyweight boxing. Tyson had mostly low caliber competition. Ali was way too skillful and savvy to lose to a dope like Tyson. Heck, even Evander Holyfield put a beating on Tyson and we all know what Tyson had to resort to in that one.
 
Evander Holyfield is a fn beast. He reminds me of a black Sagat from Street Fighter with a mustache.
 
Originally posted by aceoblivion

Ali all the way. Tyson was nothing. The only reason anyone votes for Tyson is because he's the only one that was around for you kids to remember.
 
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But I wouldn't downgrade Tyson. Allot of people seem to either love him or hate him. You need to properly recognise his skills. He's an amazing fighter.. and if his trainer wouldn't have died I might say he could have won the fight vs. Holyfield.
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Ali all the way. Tyson was nothing. The only reason anyone votes for Tyson is because he's the only one that was around for you kids to remember.
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Ali had the highest caliber of competition in the history of heavyweight boxing. Tyson had mostly low caliber competition. Ali was way too skillful and savvy to lose to a dope like Tyson. Heck, even Evander Holyfield put a beating on Tyson and we all know what Tyson had to resort to in that one.
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It's not a clixhe if its true, I looked fairly to both mikey and ali in a neutral way, and I concluded that Ali is better. Sure even I think Mike Tyson has definitely a good chance of knocking ali and foreman down, but the odds are much greater that mikey would be the one going down.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TuNA FISh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2010 at 6:00am
Originally posted by Supreme_Venom

Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy

Just who did Iron Mike actually beat? When it counted he didnt have the mental resolve to stay the course. Any of my top 10 could have beaten him. 
  1. Muhammad Ali
  2. Joe Louis
  3. Larry Holmes
  4. George Foreman
  5. Rocky Marciano
  6. Mike Tyson
  7. Lennox Lewis
  8. Floyd Patterson
  9. Joe Fraizer
  10. Jack Johnson
Yes Tyson was not as hungry when he returned to boxing but that didnt seem to be a problem for Ali, Louis, Marciano, Patterson or Lewis. Marciano would have chewed Tyson up, Louis would have been too skillful for him, Holmes too. Ali too smart, Lewis too cute and too much reach. Foreman too powerful, Patterson would have known what was coming after all Cus D'mato was his manager too so no walk over there. Fraizer would have been made for Tyson but he had a bull's heart. Johnson might have upset Tyson with his style and natural height/reach advantage. C'mon guys clear your heads, its smelling salts time!
 
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But my top 3 will remain as 1. Ali 2. Foreman 3. Mikey. Because those 3 had the most impact on me with their fights.
 
The fight in africa was pure epic... the fight looked like a movie. And the way he knocked Foreman down was beautiful. He could have thrown another few punches to make sure he stayd down, but in that glorifying moment he just kept looking him in the eyes while he spiraled down to the floor.
 
Also I can see why people would vote for Mike Tyson, Al these great fighters like Ali, Foreman, Joe etc. etc. were champions and had their glory way before most of us were even born.
 
Most of us witnessed Tysons glory in our childhood times when we were alive.
 
I used to think Tyson was the best to, until my friend showed me what fighters like Ali did and the evidence is overwhelming, to deny that Ali is the greatest is pretty gay.. he predicted the round you went down.
 
Ow and btw, George Foreman destroyed punching bags with gloves + the ones that didn´t got destroyed he left a crater in as the size of half a watermelon.
 
Now how's that for power?
 
And Ali was able to take all those power hits from Foreman in his prime while Ali was way over his.
 
I can guarantee that Ali & George Foreman Grill would beat Tyson. I would put all my money on it.
lol okay, no getting through to you guys.. pretty cliche to say that Ali is the best fighter in the world.. i get tired of hearing that sh!t. i think you guys are underestimating mike. i'm not trying to say he is the best fighter who ever lived, i'm just saying that he would have knocked Ali and foreman out.
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Originally posted by Heavenly_tRiNiTy

Just who did Iron Mike actually beat? When it counted he didnt have the mental resolve to stay the course. Any of my top 10 could have beaten him. 
  1. Muhammad Ali
  2. Joe Louis
  3. Larry Holmes
  4. George Foreman
  5. Rocky Marciano
  6. Mike Tyson
  7. Lennox Lewis
  8. Floyd Patterson
  9. Joe Fraizer
  10. Jack Johnson
Yes Tyson was not as hungry when he returned to boxing but that didnt seem to be a problem for Ali, Louis, Marciano, Patterson or Lewis. Marciano would have chewed Tyson up, Louis would have been too skillful for him, Holmes too. Ali too smart, Lewis too cute and too much reach. Foreman too powerful, Patterson would have known what was coming after all Cus D'mato was his manager too so no walk over there. Fraizer would have been made for Tyson but he had a bull's heart. Johnson might have upset Tyson with his style and natural height/reach advantage. C'mon guys clear your heads, its smelling salts time!
 
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But my top 3 will remain as 1. Ali 2. Foreman 3. Mikey. Because those 3 had the most impact on me with their fights.
 
The fight in africa was pure epic... the fight looked like a movie. And the way he knocked Foreman down was beautiful. He could have thrown another few punches to make sure he stayd down, but in that glorifying moment he just kept looking him in the eyes while he spiraled down to the floor.
 
Also I can see why people would vote for Mike Tyson, Al these great fighters like Ali, Foreman, Joe etc. etc. were champions and had their glory way before most of us were even born.
 
Most of us witnessed Tysons glory in our childhood times when we were alive.
 
I used to think Tyson was the best to, until my friend showed me what fighters like Ali did and the evidence is overwhelming, to deny that Ali is the greatest is pretty gay.. he predicted the round you went down.
 
Ow and btw, George Foreman destroyed punching bags with gloves + the ones that didn´t got destroyed he left a crater in as the size of half a watermelon.
 
Now how's that for power?
 
And Ali was able to take all those power hits from Foreman in his prime while Ali was way over his.
 
I can guarantee that Ali & George Foreman Grill would beat Tyson. I would put all my money on it.
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lol at foreman being too powerful. tyson would have knocked his grill ass out too. i'm not even going to comment on the others.
edit: you can't really say anything about someone having more "reach" or "height" than mike tyson since he was knocking people out who were way taller than him.
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i would say that mike and ali are in the top 5.. and i still think Mike would have knocked Ali out.. if you want to know who Tyson beat, go to his wiki page. there is a whole list of them there.

i still think Lennox Lewis should be ranked higher!
 
 
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Just who did Iron Mike actually beat? When it counted he didnt have the mental resolve to stay the course. Any of my top 10 could have beaten him. 
  1. Muhammad Ali
  2. Joe Louis
  3. Larry Holmes
  4. George Foreman
  5. Rocky Marciano
  6. Mike Tyson
  7. Lennox Lewis
  8. Floyd Patterson
  9. Joe Fraizer
  10. Jack Johnson
Yes Tyson was not as hungry when he returned to boxing but that didnt seem to be a problem for Ali, Louis, Marciano, Patterson or Lewis. Marciano would have chewed Tyson up, Louis would have been too skillful for him, Holmes too. Ali too smart, Lewis too cute and too much reach. Foreman too powerful, Patterson would have known what was coming after all Cus D'mato was his manager too so no walk over there. Fraizer would have been made for Tyson but he had a bull's heart. Johnson might have upset Tyson with his style and natural height/reach advantage. C'mon guys clear your heads, its smelling salts time!
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Originally posted by misfit44

mike tyson was probability the best there was.but everyone my dad's and grand father's age likeJack dempsey because he use 2 box where i'm fromhere is a mural on the building here where he used 2 fight at.<h1 id="firsting" ="firsting"></h1>
Read a bio on Dempsey. He was awesome.
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