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SP61gTSupra 
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 Topic: so i was gonna buy a 360..Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 5:17pm |
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actually when i run ut3 in 1080 it doesnt look as good as 720! MS lies, thats mostly what should be learned from this thread!
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Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 5:16pm |
I'll be getting one soon also. Looking forward to Wolfenstien Quake 3 Arcade COD MW2 |
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aceoblivion
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Maybe I don't understand Pin, why would a company that makes a game on both systems put on the back of the 360 box that it plays in 1080p and on the back of the ps3 box that is plays in 720p. Why not put 1080p on the back of the ps3 box. The first game to come out in 1080p on the 360 was Superman Returns, since then every game comes out in 1080p on the 360. Killzone 2 on the ps3 list 720p and 1080i on the back, why can't they do 1080p? Oh well, don't care, A.D.D kicking in, on to something else.
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Pinnacle
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Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 2:04pm |
UT3's native resolution is 720p. It will play at 1080p by the PS3's force upscale to 1080p. Your TV will recognize the 1080p signal and claim that it's 1080p, when it really is not. It is recieving a 1080p signal from the PS3 with a non-1080p picture. This is the issue with having 480i/480p/720i/720p/1080i/1080p. A lot of people do not understand what the actual content is being broadcast at as opposed to the actually content being in 1080p.
i.e. If I plug a device that only broadcasts a 1080p signal into my TV, the TV will recognize the 1080p signal. However, if the content is programmed at 480p, then the TV will still recognize a 1080p signal, but the images will be the quality of a 480p picture. Now take the disk out of the drive and check your TV. The TV will still claim that the feed to the TV is in 1080p. Where is that 1080p signal coming from? The PS3. The PS3 is telling the TV that the signal is 1080p. The picture quality and the programming doesn't matter to the TV. The only way a game is truly 1080p, is if it's programmed, designed and stamped onto a disk as a native resolution of 1080p.
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Pinnacle
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Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 1:49pm |
Ace, I'm not arguing with the comments on the box, but it's a bit deceptive and has been pointed out in various articles since the 360 decided to advertise their full HD experience. Having these statements on the box does not mean the game is playing in 1080p. It means the 360 will send a 1080p signal to the TV, notwithstanding what the game's native resolution is.. Let us not get confused with what the game is programmed as and the signal sent to the TV. They are two different worlds. PS3 supports all games in 1080p. But it does not mean that all games are programmed in 1080p. I hope you understand the distinction. Like I said, there are only a few games on the 360 and PS3 that are actually true HD 1080p. Another reason that MS puts that calim on the box is because when the 360 first came out, it would not play on 1080p resolution monitors. Thus, the TV had to be manually changed to 720p/1080i to work. That defeated the purpose of owning a 1080p TV. The statement on the game states the TV's supported resoltuions, not the game's native resolution.
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i always played ut3 on ps3 in 1080p, it just upscales like the 360. for anyone who doesnt know, if you have a 1080p set the only modes to 480p and 1080p on your ps3 and launch ut3 and itll run in 1080p |
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ive plated ut3 on both and yes i do prefer the ps3 version coz its faster and user creted content but it looks way better on 360 coz its in 1080p and i can see the difference easily
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ive decided ill be buying a 360
madden 2010
quake 3 arcade
halo odst
and cod mw2
will be the games ill be looking for
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aceoblivion
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All my games on the 360 are listed as 720p/1080i/1080p on the back of the boxes, the games play at 1080p. Infamous is only listed as 720p on the package. I don't know about this handfull of games that play in 1080p on the 360, I have 15 games out on top of my entertainment center right now and everyone of them is listed as 1080p. Both systems are fine and I own them both because I like them both.
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Pinnacle
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Ace, there are only a handful of 360 games that run at 1080p. 1080p is a native resolution that is not upscaled and programmed specifically at 1080p. The native resolutions on PS3 are 720p or 1080p. PS3 will upscale 720 games to 1080i for maximum resolution on 1080i TV's. But for all intensive purposes 720p=1080i. There aren't many 360 titles that even run at 720p. A lot of the 360 games are native at a lower resolution and are upconverted via the 360 to 720i. Halo is a prime example. If I'm not mistake, Halo's is programmed at 640p. As for all Sony games running at 1080p, it is up to the developer to bare the cost to program for such a high resolution. This takes a lot of time and costs skyrocket. As a result, most developers, except Sony 1st party developers, have stayed away from 1080p.
Also, you are correct that you don't need HDMI to run 1080p, but the risk of interference by using component cables is much greater than HDMI. HDMI is digital without any static interference.
The other point you made is that when a game comes out for both PS3/360, you buy the 360 version. This has a lot to do with the developer. A lot of developers used to program for 360 first then port over to PS3 since the programming for the PS3 was much more complicated. This resulted in quality loss on the PS3 side. EA was notorious at doing this and Orange Box is prime example of how they let the PS3 crowd down. Another example was Grand Theft Auto. However things have changed. Most developers have annouced recently that they will begin development on PS3 first and then port to 360.
Lastly, the primary difference between the PS3 and the 360 is not graphics prowess. It's processing power and Blu-Ray. There are many other arguements that can be made, such as the controller, the hard drive size, wi-fi, etc, but the main points are the Cell processor and Blu-Ray. With the capacity of Blu-Ray, it provides almost endless capacity for a developer. DVD-9 is limited in size and compression can only be accomplished to a certain degree without losing information or causing frame rate drops. Thus, BR provides a huge platform (50gb uncompressed) to develop for. Also the Cell is a very complex processor. It takes some of the processing duties away from the RSX graphics gard. In turn, the PS3 is capable of performing more processes than the 360 can. Again, this is up to the developer to use. If all games are programmed like PC games, the chances are they will run better on the 360. If the games are programmed for the individual console platform, the PS3 will edge the 360. Sony's 1st party titles are nothing short of exceptional and they prove this point. Uncharted, MGS, Rachet and Clank,Heavenly Sword, etc. are only possible on the PS3. Not because of the graphics, but because of the size of the game and the complexities of processing power. Dont look at he game play itself, look at the game and what it brings to the table. Game play and whether a game ifs fun is all based on the developer.
If you want to know more about the differences between the consoles, then hit up www.ign.com They have a breakdown between the two consoles somewhere on the site. Also, this debate has been going on for over 2 years at www.n4g.com . It all comes down to preference and the games available, however, at these price points other considerations should be product quality and longevity. PS3 wins on both those fronts. I think this a healthy debate to have on this forum since there is a lot of money at stake when making an investment in the consoles. These machines are not cheap. People should hear first hand why other purchased another system and why they like/dislike the other system.
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How come games on the ps3 play in 720p and all the games on the 360 are 1080p. You don't have to have hdmi to play the 360 games in 1080p either. Any game that comes out on both systems I buy on the 360, I've rented games on both systems and always like the 360 version better. I also don't like the fact that some games on the ps3 can't run off the blu-ray disc so you have to download it to your harddrive. Metal Gear and Gran Turismo take up so much room it's unbelievable. I can put games on my harddrive or not on the 360. I have over 80 games on the 360. I've always been a huge playstation fanatic with the first two systems, I've never owned the first xbox but love the 360. I also don't understand why even the game infamous for the ps3 is only 720p, that makes no since, everygame on the ps3 should be 1080p, they all are on the 360. I also like the controller alot better on the 360 and especially like the triggers, they fill like real triggers in shooting games, the triggers on the ps3 are too wide to be triggers. I use my ps3 to play ut3, which I borrowed and still have, and watch blu-rays, I use my 360 to play over 80 games including Ma** Effect, the greatest game ever.
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Posted: 27 Jul 2009 at 10:37am |
Well said mate! I bought PS3 for UT3 (billed as an exclusive for PS3) but I would still have invested in it for BlueRay. Dont listen to what ppl say, the 360 is a fine m/c. I bought Haze too and Quake - Enemy Territory and to me both were pretty lame. Haze was repetitive and the vehicle controls were awkward. Quake paled into insignificance alongside UT3. Sold em both for £25.
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360 is better for games and PS3 is just a great home enertainment system for dvd,bluray and music but not for games
dont get me wrong maybe one day the tables will change and sony might actually make their concole better but i stick with what i said 360 is better for games by far at this time plus i love achievments, trophies just dont feel right. every1 to there own i love my ps3 and im deffo no fanboy i just think that they are different and better for different things |
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I wanted a 360 but I was so excited for Haze that I got a PS3. UT3 was originally just a game to hold me over til Haze came out. Haze was then released and it was terrible. Lost all my hopes and junk. I really didnt like UT3 because I was stupid garbage. Haze was developed by Free Radical who previously made TimeSplitters: Future Perfect which is my favorite FPS of all time. So I thought I was making a great transition but failed horribly. I guess after once Haze failed, I started to get better and better at UT3. Old friends from TSFP (MickeyBo & CoolDave) who played UT3 also and where in qM introduced me Phantaci. Joined qM and played a month with them until they told they were looking switch to 360 UT3 because it was thought MLG would pick it up. Thats when I got real interested. I looked info and junk. What I saw, I really liked so I wanted to get 360 ever since. I think its a great system for competition which is what im looking for now a days.
Deadaim just choose what you want bro. It would be nice to see you on PS3 but I am not as agressive to people who go with 360 because there is nothing wrong with that console at all. If my PS3 does break, I doubt I will get either system because I cant afford that much anymore. So id probably be done with online gaming. If I ever do get the money though, Ima try something different. |
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your all retards, there is way more 1080p games on xbox than ps3, like way way more. quit dissing xbox =, u just wish u had one, i have a ma**ive bluray collection and i play ut3 thats it, i bought little big planet and its ****, uncharted is good thats about it[/QUOTE] Dude, i have no problem with you, but you come in here calling us all fanboys, then start spoutung off at the mouth about facts that arent even true about 360's! the 360 tries (see how i said tries) to upconvert 720p signal to 1080p, hell even Gears runs at like 650 or something like that! PS3 def has more games RUNNING at 1080p, better and more exclusives! I can upconvert my **** all day long, doesnt mean it looks any better! To be honest, in the past when upconvering movies and or games, ive noticed anitaisiling on the horizontal scan line, why you ask, because for one, your taking content that was made for 720p and taking it up to 1080p, and when you force the TV to do so, it actually lags in the amount of time because of the compensation, in turn giving it a 1080i "effect", along with the previously said comment, along with the 1080i effect, you get what is called "fencing" or "flaneling" kind of like watching a movie that shows a fence and it gets all weird looking where the fence is or if you look at a flanel shirt! |
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^^^^^ What he said |
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Yah my friend as well with his 60gb lol.. I reather have a 60gb to just because it simply looks better and can play PS2 games as well..
I don't know I might be really unlucky or something.. I always take good care of my stuff.
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wtf!? 4th ps3? I still have my original 60gb model from 2006... 
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idk bout that a lot of 360 gamers like it cuz of the competitive side we got more than the ps3 not saying we dont have one as i play ps3 as well but they have tourneys and mlg games so they will always have more players.
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the only better thing bout the 360 is that more ppl own da 360 cuz it came out first, cuz its cheaper, n for sum games like HALO 3, GEARS OF WARS 1 &2, LEFT 4 DEAD. But i bet you if da ps3 cost da same as da 360 n both came out the same time,PS3 would had WAAAAAY more gamers
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Yah I have to admit.. even tho I have my 4th PS3 from Sony.. they always deliver within 3 weeks without any problems.
With my 3th PS3 being damaged, I tried to screw around it myself because I thought the warranty was expired (1 year pa**ed)
Then I called them and they say its ok, they increased the time on the warranty for everyone, I even told the operator "I thought the warranty was expired so I tried to fix it myself and the warranty sticker looks a bit torn off"
You know what he said? "Well lets pretend that never happened, just send in your PS3 and we'll give you another one"
Ain't that something?
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Yeah i'm not bashing MS btw not everyone is anti 360 I love mine. Its quite right that the customer support for PS3 is better than 360. When mine screwed up it had RROD all the way round also scratched 3 games which was no joke. I was told to send it off and pay £60 FOR REPAIR COSTS it was 13.5 months old. Time of return was estimated at 3 weeks but people I knew said theirs took nearly 2 months. So I packaged mine up and tried to part exchange at a games store. They tested and said the drive was faulty and the disk would not eject. I took it home and messed around with it before taking it to a different shop the next day. It pa**ed their test but if the company had a conscience they would realise that customer satisfaction is actually how you retain your customer base. PS3 return in less than 2 weeks here and there is no blame attached to users as "you knocked your unit sir" or "it is not in an area that allows adequate ventilation" etc. Thats the BS that MS give you, then they try to sell you an extended warranty. No, the Japanese build reliability and when it doesn't come up to scratch they take more responsibility than MS/US electrical companies i'm afraid.
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