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SP61gTSupra
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Topic: What the Deal with Super-Size clans?Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 6:03pm |
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Yea noot, it would fun and awesome! wish i could, but money is an issue!
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Danjel8
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Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 5:53pm |
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Yep you both nailed it right there... I gotta admit that in past times I was totally addicted to the game. Looking back it was fairly sad! Play for fun and play with people you enjoy playing with, I guess if you follow those lines you could have a clan of anywhere between 3-30 members! On a personal note the perfect clan for me would be 5-6 people in the same timezone who regularly play together. Of course its likely that this would only exist in a perfect world because not everyone can commit as much time to the game. Realistically 10-12 members is good but people bought the game themselves with their own money, if they want a clan with 40 members then who are we to judge? |
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AK-47-D-MAFIA
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Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 5:50pm |
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that's right necro, also, some ppl just likes one mode n they just want to stick to that one and not learn the others
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Fluffy Fluffington
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Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 5:37pm |
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Id have to say this is the ideal but I find difficult to make practical, at least my experience.
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NecroBeestiality
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Posted: 23 Jul 2009 at 5:24pm |
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One important factor is availability, and the standards set by clan leaders. If clan members aren't consistently available, and this is allowed, more clan members are necessary. That's what it boils down to for me. People can learn other modes and people can improve. If they aren't around, you need back-ups like Mommy's clan has.
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Nootsac
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Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 3:27pm |
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Thats why you need to get ur a55 on the PC version and join Harm, Killa, Me, KillinU, Pacer, JohhnySlash and entrop23. We do the same thing ur talking about all the time to prepare for matches. Harm said you guys were sick together and I couldnt imagine what an a**et you would be to the PC community. Get errrr done mang!
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SP61gTSupra
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Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 1:15pm |
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Yup, TRU has been around for almost a year! Cokk an me are the only two who were in tWc, i started tWc like 2 months after its release, we had around 10 members @ the time and, have to say the nastiest WF line up! Then i lost internet for 6 weeks, every one in tWc formed BAK, a month later i re organized tWc, a few months later had personal issues an handed tWc over to envy, upon my return to ut3, tWc was prostituted into 2 sects with more than 20 people! and yea, if i host, its usually small maps, preferably with little to no vehicles!
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Heavenly_tRiNiTy
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Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 12:27pm |
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Fn A may be the exception idk but I thought they came from 360? There aren't many clans on 360, cant think of any that ive seen in all modes but i dont play CTF often. TRU existed before league right Lunchy. And those guys weren't you all in tWc or summit. You used to host market district and other small WF games cos i played in them.
Another point is i'm guessing with small clans (not tRi) youre in similar time zones or on the same continent at least. Small clans can only exist under these conditions. I'm down with what Black_Star and Remy said and we have started to play in other modes as a unit. We did WF with iAM last night - stopped after that cos it was 0300 for me when they wanted to play vCTF. I still say small clans = more divisive = more disruption when arranging matches (1 or 2 down then match doesnt go ahead) = less participation of organised groups. Also super-sized clans = less competition = less participation.
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SP61gTSupra
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Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 12:52am |
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I prefer small clans, when we started out, it was a few cool people that we all knew each other, we all fit in, there was no new guy who felt awkward cuz he didnt know anyone! A few of us had an almost twin brother like connection, we all knew what was going on and how to respond accordingly, and countless night of 4,5,sometimes 6 hours of practice! I remember one night with Ghost,Neo, Harm, and myself playin together for almost 8 hours one night, getting our lines and our jobs down, and figuring who did what better! I miss thoes day *sniffle
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sickboogiemurder
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Posted: 22 Jul 2009 at 12:52am |
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Remy has the right idea. I think clans should have 5 members, anymore and its just stupid in my opinion.
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RemY
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Posted: 21 Jul 2009 at 11:46pm |
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OR you guys can venture off in other modes as a team. Learn together as a team.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2009 at 7:56pm |
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Let me explain it more. You should have at least some people that know multiple modes. For example tRi is a CTF clan and Go_Dead and Xerxes play WAR the most in tRi. So when we have a clan match in WAR, they coordinate everything. I don't know much about WAR so when they tell me things I pay attention and pick up on new strategies etc. So our chemistry as a team improves while being able to expand to other modes.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2009 at 6:24pm |
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Posted: 21 Jul 2009 at 6:22pm |
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TRU has 3 members. I play warfare everyday.
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Prince Big Woody
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Posted: 21 Jul 2009 at 5:56pm |
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Fn A has 3 active people, that's less than 9 lol.
Why would you recruit just for a silly tourney :S Isn't it a good oppertunity to train your players against other teams who aren't used to the modes yet? |
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Heavenly_tRiNiTy
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Posted: 21 Jul 2009 at 5:53pm |
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Because the onset of a league meant that clans didnt have the time to practice modes they were unfamiliar with so they brought in expertise - a good model if you dont have the time to grow your own. Its no coincidence that pre-league, established clans like tRi and qM numbered less than 9. Now I guessing the only clan that has less than 9 are tRi - who imo happen to be the clan most able to compete in all the modes. All the other clans number 11 upwards i'm guessing off the top of my head. Actually if tOp are back then thats 2 but tOp existed before the league also. This means that ppl want/are happy to be in bigger clans. Primarily I think this has been driven by the requirements of the league but Im not anti-league its a good thing. I enquired if a league that was based on modes was on the agenda but was told the clans would have to play all modes. playing is what's important to most of us. Pubs are OK but battles are where the fun really is at.
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Black_star
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Posted: 20 Jul 2009 at 6:17pm |
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Posted: 20 Jul 2009 at 5:19pm |
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8 people per clan is enough imo
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Posted: 20 Jul 2009 at 3:46pm |
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RemY
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Posted: 20 Jul 2009 at 3:34pm |
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Teammates' capabilities and weaknesses is what I meant mommy. Also with drokun's post.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2009 at 3:33pm |
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I don't know any clans that have 40 active members. I have also been in a clan with 5 active members. I have seen more cohesion in A-R then I did in the smaller clan. They have taught me what being a team player means. Proud to be A-R. |
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Prince Big Woody
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Posted: 20 Jul 2009 at 3:09pm |
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I think he means teamwork which followed long practice with always the same couple of people
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Posted: 20 Jul 2009 at 3:08pm |
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no offense.. but noone in the ut3 community knows how to make a clan. if this game was acctually active.. it would make 0 sense to recruit 40 ppl, 0 sense to recruit people from around the world etc.
this game has fallen into the "console uncompetetive category" in my opinion.. its like say a game like warhawk.. bunch of kids running around making 50 player teams etc (although warhawk does have more clan activity then this game) and very little clan activity.
id rather have a clan more in the "competetive" clan aspect, something a game like unreal use to be known for, give me a handful of killers and ill learn everything about them and play any mode with them. i dont want 40 ppl who half them probably dont know the other half, the other half speaks a diffrent language, and a third of them have never seen the others online because they have never played at the same time because they live across the world.
besides the fact that unreal is extremely poor netcode.. i dont understand why you guys force more lag upon yourselves..
and i might be selfish.. but im the kind of player that if we have a clan match.. i want to play every time.. regardless of mode etc. so having 40 players on my team we would have alot of people riding the pine, every single time.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2009 at 3:06pm |
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I disagree, I have great chemistry with all my clan mates. I enjoy playing with all of them. I love TDM with DoD.I even like VCTF when I am on the opposite team of Chris & Bio, I know I'm gonna lose but I still have a blast. Kargo with Shewulph is great fun. Popping up & having King say "Mommy was EVERYWHERE!" the coolest. Playing Sandstorm with River & Arkos way too funny. Getting shock combo'd by Sandfox lol. Aqua in a tank (hope I'm on his side). I could go on but I don't want this post to be three pages long. |
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